TV: Game of Thrones

[shinta|hikari]

They can't just chip away at the wall, so an en masse attack would be useless.

I do not understand. Do you mean that a non-en masse attack would be useless?

If so, chipping away at the enemy is not the point of testing the defenses. Now they know that a giant can lift the gate. Now they know how high the scythe is and its range. They even know the maximum range of the arrows. All this information gained from that attack can serve to improve the next attempt, and yes, this time, en masse. They lose a few in the first try but save much more overall. That is the logic behind testing a fort's defenses.

From what I remember of the books, the Giant's attack on the gates was crucial to Mance Rayder's plan and it was actually another character that helped to seal the gate during the fight (Grenn isn't supposed to have died).

The show portrayed it differently, as if this attack was a trial. Snow, who saw the forces that are about to invade them when he was captive, even explicitly mentioned that this was a test of the defenses, and that more giants will come.

[Augury]

The wildlings aren't exactly a disciplined army. Even if Mance was a great tactician, it's not as if the different groups would all do as he says outside of the most basic commands. I thought the fire was supposed to be used as the signal for the raiding group south of the wall, but there are some inconsistencies there... even if the warg is killed, they'd still be able to hear the start of the battle.


The backdrop of all of this is that the wildlings are really only at the wall because they're running from the white walkers, not because they decided to make a concerted effort to invade and plunder. Many of the 100,000 aren't fighters since whole families etc. are there, and of the fighters I'd expect most of them to be self-serving. We're seeing the attack from Jon's point of view, but things should look pretty desperate from the wildling's point of view as well.

[Death BOO Z]

So at this point we should be cheering for Mance and his wildlings to succeed and bring war to Westeros which is ruled by the evil Lannisters.

yes, and then danyers and her unsullied will take westros from the wildlings, and the whole things turn into a giant simpsons reference that fits really well because we have already been waiting for winter to come and kill everybody.

[Animeniax]

yes, and then danyers and her unsullied will take westros from the wildlings, and the whole things turn into a giant simpsons reference that fits really well because we have already been waiting for winter to come and kill everybody.

What Simpsons reference would that be? If it's after circa season 15, I probably haven't seen it.

I wonder if it will be the wildlings or the white walkers that will greet Danaerys and her army in the west.

[Death BOO Z]

it's the usual simpsons quote, about the lizards

KENT
Our top story, the population of parasitic tree lizards has exploded, and local citizens couldn't be happier! It seems the rapacious reptiles have developed a taste for the common pigeon, also known as the 'feathered rat', or the 'gutter bird'. For the first time, citizens need not fear harassment by flocks of chattering disease-bags.

Later, Bart receives an award from Mayor Quimby outside the town hall. Several lizards slink past.

QUIMBY
For decimating our pigeon population, and making Springfield a less oppressive place to while away our worthless lives, I present you with this scented candle.

Skinner talks to Lisa.

SKINNER
Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

LISA
But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

SKINNER
No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

LISA
But aren't the snakes even worse?

SKINNER
Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

LISA
But then we're stuck with gorillas!

SKINNER
No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

The family head back to the car.

search for the episode "Bart the mother".

[Animeniax]

it's the usual simpsons quote, about the lizards

search for the episode "Bart the mother".

That's awesome, especially with winter killing everything.

[shinta|hikari]

Winter only kills the gorillas.

[Animeniax]

Not once global warming does its thing and the winters get worse and then the events of The Day After Tomorrow come to pass.

[poopdeville]

Argh, I'm getting sick of all the Game of Thrones hype. It used to be that you could visit a typical GOT review and find people talking about the things that happened -- like what goes on here, mostly. Now all you see is "GREATEST SHOW EVA! PERIOD."

I hope HBO doesn't lower their standards, now that the audience's standards are so much lower, by the sheer weight of low IQ's.

[lelouch]

I wonder if it will be the wildlings or the white walkers that will greet Danaerys and her army in the west.

It will be Stannis. Stannis will greet her. For King's Landing is dark and full of pastries.

[Penner]

Time for some Game of Thrones season finale action!









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Awesome! Loved everything, except for what happened to Sandor :/

Now i'm super excited to see what Arya's new adventure is going to be next season, and what will happen with Tyrion.

Shit, season 5 is looking really damn promising!

[Death BOO Z]

I laughed so hard at this episode...
mostly at the fireballs, though.

and I can't see what stannis plan for the north, unless he plans to enlist the wildlings as his army.

[Assertn]

[Death BOO Z]

I didn't want to spoil the episode for my FB list, but i couldn't resist (making and) posting this:

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[Carnage]

All around good episode, unfortunately its mostly downhill from here as far as excitement goes. Unless they cover the elements concerning Rhaegar Targaryan in the next season and include the actual Iron Islands content.

[poopdeville]

Or maybe RR will start writing for the show first, and the books second.

[shinta|hikari]

LOL, I seriously hope so.

I love it when heroes fall into despair. Both Arya and Tyrion fall into that category now. Now I just have to prepare myself for GRRM to kill them.

[Animeniax]

I finally saw the Red Wedding episode... brutal, brutal. The way the guy attacked Talisa's unborn child was particularly gruesome, plus how they killed Catelyn Stark (spoiler: though if you've read the book, you know it's not the end for her).

I really wanted to see Edmure Tully get killed, but maybe that's for a future episode.

Here's an article about some unfortunate possibilities for the franchise:
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4...-game-thrones/

[Penner]

Unfortunately i've already been spoiled about the thing you mention in your spoiler warning(and a few other things as well) thanks to all the book-readers who lost their fucking shit all over the internet because the tv-show apparently removed some important book-stuff from the final ep in season 4. >_>

Here's an article about some unfortunate possibilities for the franchise:
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4...-game-thrones/

I'm always worried about what they will do when they eventually catch up to the books, and how they will deal with the child actors rapidly out-growing their characters.

Nerver really been too worried about the productions costs tho, since i always thought the insane popularity of this show made it earn back the money it cost to make.

Also, I strongly doubt that the fans/actors would start "dictating the plot" and the studios would cave under the pressure and start making massive changes from the books.

[Animeniax]

Unfortunately i've already been spoiled about the thing you mention in your spoiler warning(and a few other things as well) thanks to all the book-readers who lost their fucking shit all over the internet because the tv-show apparently removed some important book-stuff from the final ep in season 4. >_>

You mean season 3? I'm going to watch the final ep of season 3 soon.

I'm always worried about what they will do when they eventually catch up to the books, and how they will deal with the child actors rapidly out-growing their characters.

Nerver really been too worried about the productions costs tho, since i always thought the insane popularity of this show made it earn back the money it cost to make.

Also, I strongly doubt that the fans/actors would start "dictating the plot" and the studios would cave under the pressure and start making massive changes from the books.

GoT is one of the most pirated franchises in the history of the internet, so I don't know how much return on investment HBO or the production companies are getting. I've personally DL'd all the seasons, and purchased season 1 on Bluray. Season 2 is $70 on Amazon for some reason.

Like the article mentioned, if someone like Tyrion or Danaerys or Jon Snow died in the books, the show might diverge drastically because they'd hate to lose stars like Dinklage or Clarke.