GRRM also helps write the scripts, just not the screenplay.
GRRM also helps write the scripts, just not the screenplay.
None of that has applied to the plot points I'm referring to, but to each his own.Originally Posted by Augury
I kinda want this answered, so I'm reposting it:
It's been a long time since I read them, but I remember [spoiler]Ned died in the first book[/spoiler], but I see him in episodes of season 2. Maybe I remember the timeline of events wrong?
edit: found it in a GoT wiki. I guess the scenes from season 2 that I saw were actually season 1 or they were flashbacks.
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“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Let's just say that season 1 matches the first book almost exactly (from the prologue to the last chapter). In fact, from what I remember, things unfold in pretty much the same order as the POV chapters as well.
Ding dong the bitch is dead
I just finished the first season and it's like you said, it matches the first book almost exactly. The nudity really tapered off towards the end of the season, capped with Daenarys's naked rise from the fire. I hear season two has more gratuitous nudity, which is kind of a shame since the story alone should be enough to bring in viewers, but still appreciated.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Yeah, it's about time that little shit head got his comeuppance. But now I have to worry about Tyrion. And I want to know who did it. The new queen? Cersei is too dumb.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Just started season 2. Does anyone know how Stannis knew about Joffrey's birth parents before spreading the word all over the seven kingdoms?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Ned Stark sent him a letter by ship if I recall correctly. It was either that or he knew all along (which is why he left king's landing in the first place).
I didn't think Ned had informed anyone before he was arrested. It was something that pissed me off, since his predecessor was killed for the information and it is news that would rock the kingdom. I might have missed it in the show though.
If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, it's technically, "ding dong the bastard is dead."
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Just get caught up already.If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, it's technically, "ding dong the bastard is dead."
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Trying to catch up, but I don't want to rush it. I rushed reading the books because they are real page turners, so it's hard to recall a lot of the story just a few years later.Just get caught up already.
So Ned actually sends the letter to Stannis in the show? Or is that wiki entry citing something from the books? I just can't recall the scene where the letter/raven is sent, though it's a small event.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Yeah. I don't remember the scene either, but basically, Ned, Littlefinger, and Varys were talking about what Ned should do. And then Ned told Varys he was going to back Stannis.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Oh weird, I found the scene in S01E07. I guess I must have started the episode and then not finished it. The scene you mentioned happens after Ned leaves Robert's deathbed, then Ned discusses it with Renly and Littlefinger individually later. Thanks for the info.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
In the first book, it's strongly implied that Jon Arryn shared his investigations with Stannis. I don't recall this ever being explicitly stated in the TV show. Even without book knowledge though, it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that Stannis knew beforehand but didn't have the political capital to stay in King's Landing after Jon Arryn died.
In case you don't want to go the wikipedia route or risk spoilers in forums for all your questions, I'd recommend re-reading the books. They're very carefully written, so readers pick up a lot more when reading it again (and again).
True, they did mention that Stannis "fled" King's Landing at some point, though I don't know if they said why. It might have been because of this knowledge or at least a suspicion concerning Joffrey.
I've been wanting to re-read the series (I only got halfway through the 5th book) but I've never been one to re-read/re-play/re-watch most books/games/shows. I feel there's so much out there that re-doing anything is kind of a waste of time. But this book series definitely deserves a second read.In case you don't want to go the wikipedia route or risk spoilers in forums for all your questions, I'd recommend re-reading the books. They're very carefully written, so readers pick up a lot more when reading it again (and again).
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
every time a kid is assassinated, it's the same guy pulling the strings. someone should do something about him.
and rapey incest one handed sex in the burial tomb of our son was really weird.
Beside the dead son's body.
Joffrey really got what he deserved this time.
Tyrion is such a big man in a small body.
Peace.
You guys hate on Joffrey but he's a product of his upbringing. With a father like Robert (as far as he knew), a scheming mother, and a controlling grandfather, it's no wonder he turned out to be so evil and mean. He needed help.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
he has two decent(ish) siblings who didn't have much screen time due to not being awefull people. they managed (tyrion even said so himself, 2 out of three).
and he seemed to like his father, actually, and robert did care for him (at least, he didn't know he was an insect boy).
although, the pressure of being king probably made it worse.
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