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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post

    ...why would he want ANY of those things?
    Well... wanting free will among his undead/monster underlings has already been established as a goal.
    He wants his guardians to be completely autonomous, not bound by their settings, or in the elves cases, even live among their own kind if they so wish, to give one example.

    After all they are basically children to him.
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    His drain tough is an innate racial skill of an Overlord, the highest class of undead.

    He didn't use any magic, just magic items and skills, which the enemy is free to do as well. Healing is an innate racial War Troll skill, and the troll (was forced to) used it in the match. The troll also unleashed a bunch of martial skills.

    Even when Ainz said he was going to take the match seriously, he still didn't use magic. He just unleashed the limiters he placed on himself. He had a skill called physical nullification (that was sealed prior), so any physical attack that didn't overcome the skill will just be nullified. That wasn't magic.

    Magic and skills are different, and being a mage, he is indeed seriously handicapped by not using magic. He can't use magical buffs or any actual spells. If he had to fight Shalltear again but in the same conditions as this match, he would've died in seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Why does he want anything?

    What a weird question ....
    It just seems like a list of things YOU would want if you were them. Especially the "They need to be getting a human body so they can fuck all the hot chicks, man!" that you have for every skeleton character. "This all powerful, immortal body that I have? I should try and downgrade to a shit human body so I can get my dick wet."

    Which is just an extension of your "Any character that not contantly trying to have sex is fucking GAY!" schtick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    It just seems like a list of things YOU would want if you were them. Especially the "They need to be getting a human body so they can fuck all the hot chicks, man!" that you have for every skeleton character. "This all powerful, immortal body that I have? I should try and downgrade to a shit human body so I can get my dick wet."

    Which is just an extension of your "Any character that not contantly trying to have sex is fucking GAY!" schtick.
    I think it's natural for most men to desire sex, in a totally normal way. If you're an all-powerful being but lack the means to have sex, I'd say that's something you'd wish to have, especially when it'd be tied to having romantic relationships and possibly offspring.

    This is exactly the point I'm trying to make when I demand more sex in anime: It's natural and it'd make sense for many situations. Plus in the case of Overlord, it'd make things really interesting: Albedo's and the other girls' reaction to Ainz having a sexually functioning body; also their reaction to Ainz acquiring a human body for himself; then the consequences to Ainz' as a human body would introduce a tangible weakness that human kingdoms could try to exploit; and the whole road to acquiring such body. Lots of interesting, fun scenes to be had.

    Pls stop always reducing "sex in anime" to "you just wanna fap". Nah, fam, I can already do that with what'S out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post

    Pls stop always reducing "sex in anime" to "you just wanna fap". Nah, fam, I can already do that with what'S out there.
    We don't, you do, that's the problem.

    Can't keep saying that stuff for years by now and hand-wave away by dropping a one-kiner saying "oh btw, It's not about that, trust me bro".
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    We don't, you do, that's the problem.

    Can't keep saying that stuff for years by now and hand-wave away by dropping a one-kiner saying "oh btw, It's not about that, trust me bro".
    So you're not replying to what I wrote, you're on a crusade to "stick it to me"? Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I think it's natural for most men to desire sex, in a totally normal way. If you're an all-powerful being but lack the means to have sex, I'd say that's something you'd wish to have, especially when it'd be tied to having romantic relationships and possibly offspring.
    Well, A. I think a lot of that drive is hormonal, which, as a skeleton, you'd no longer have.

    And B. The whole POINT of liches is that they are a lifelong pursuit of forbidden magic that will allow you to shed your humanity in order to become immortal. It's literally their whole deal. No lich is gonna be like "I wanna give up my immortality and a ton of my power just so I can fuck again." Like, for real, they do not give a shit, and would find that to be the dumbest, pettiest use of their power imaginable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    So you're not replying to what I wrote, you're on a crusade to "stick it to me"? Gotcha.
    You mean your bullshit about how it would supposedly make the whole thing "more interesting" as a cover for your lust?

    You mean it's more interesting to have a more generic story than the one we have right now where people long for Ainz' affection but Ainz can't give that kind of love to them?
    Sure bru, that's objectively "more interesting" - aight. You clown... don't pretend it's anything else but your stupid lust that leads to your stupid ideas.

    I mean, you already forgot because you didn't get a boner from it, but we had sex in Overlord. And you said it was fucking stupid, probably because your fetish didn't match.
    So yeah, I'm going to stick your stupidity right back to you, it's unbearable to read otherwise. You aren't 14 anymore.

    You have this world conquering stage and you want some random ass human noble to court Albedo so you can self insert, as self inserting with a skeleton hero completely ruins your dreams about Albedos thick assets.
    Seriously.... did you ever consider what you find "interesting" doesn't match with the show you are watching? The irony of it all is that this dilema is exactly featured inside you. "Oh no, he can't bang Albedo, that's why he needs his human body back" not realizing that this is exactly in essence the dilema the show wants to have and is even used as part of the story.
    Albedo can't get Ainz, no matter what, she is SUCCUBUS - THAT CAN'T GET LAID
    That's part of her character design and part of the story.

    How about NOT getting Ainz his body back because that would actually be a much better story?
    How about Albedo going crazy because she can never get what she wants?
    Etc. etc.

    Sorry for pointing out the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krayz33
    I mean, you already forgot because you didn't get a boner from it, but we had sex in Overlord.
    Wait what? When was this? I have no recall.

    I think Ainz did do Albedo injustice. She was originally a bitch (read: slut) but he changed her parameter to be madly in love with him - and left it as is. It's not out of character since Ainz is pretty thoughtless outside of PVP, but her frustrations are entirely his fault. It's part of the story - I get that. Just feel unfair for Albedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Wait what? When was this? I have no recall.
    Lizard stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I think Ainz did do Albedo injustice. She was originally a bitch (read: slut) but he changed her parameter to be madly in love with him - and left it as is.
    To be fair, he fell asleep and got sucked into another world. He probably would have changed her back if that hadn't happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Lizard stuff.
    And that was a great scene, because it made these lizards feel real all of sudden.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    And that was a great scene, because it made these lizards feel real all of sudden.
    sure bro

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    Oh well.

    No complaints then.

    Instead of 6 episodes if reptile sex, I'd like to see just one episode with a sexy scene featuring that blonde adamantite class leader chick with the big boobs.

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    I mean, he didn't say it was bad, he just said he preferred the blond woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I mean, he didn't say it was bad, he just said he preferred the blond woman.
    He thinks it was so good, that a pointless sexy scene with one of the good looking human characters is more interesting than making characters "feel real"...

    Sure.
    Or rather, he'd simply give up all of that as long as someone can put his penis into good looking human characters because "reasons".
    I mean, there is not even a male match for that specific character in the series. No love interest, nothing.

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    I think his point is that sex and sex scenes aren't inherently pointless even if they don't develop the plot or characters. According to Mfauli, sex scenes or the presence of sexual intercourse, even if implied, is important in making the characters more believable.

    The sheer absence of sex in shounen stories is very glaring, especially in harem and romance titles.

    Regardless if Mfauli is being truthful about his assertion or not, the assertion itself has merit. Normal people do have sex, and it is very unnatural how mainstream anime (typically shounen and similar) treat it like a taboo.
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    Doesn't matter, if he wants characters to have intimate relationships he could write just that without all the extras, instead he is pushing his fan fiction about sucking boobs and being angry about good looking characters not getting boned and the only acceptable alternative would be to make the good looking characters turn ugly.

    Sex or less attractive characters, is what he wants (said like that, literally)

    Go figure what that means.
    It's just porn with extra steps under the pretense to actually care about what is happening in the show.

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    To clarify, your stance isn't necessarily about the lack of sex in mainstream anime, but that Mfauli is lying about his reasons for wanting sex to be present?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I think his point is that sex and sex scenes aren't inherently pointless even if they don't develop the plot or characters. According to Mfauli, sex scenes or the presence of sexual intercourse, even if implied, is important in making the characters more believable.

    The sheer absence of sex in shounen stories is very glaring, especially in harem and romance titles.

    Regardless if Mfauli is being truthful about his assertion or not, the assertion itself has merit. Normal people do have sex, and it is very unnatural how mainstream anime (typically shounen and similar) treat it like a taboo.
    That's what I've been saying, but if a certain someone better understands it when it comes from someone else, alright. Instead he goes on about "sucking boobs", wth.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    The sheer absence of sex in shounen stories is very glaring
    I mean...it's a genre where most of the characters are kids and teenagers...

    I don't know what you're expecting if you go into Naruto hoping to see some scenes of Naruto just drilling down on Hinata...

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Regardless if Mfauli is being truthful about his assertion or not, the assertion itself has merit. Normal people do have sex, and it is very unnatural how mainstream anime (typically shounen and similar) treat it like a taboo.
    Normal people also go to the bathroom every couple hours. Most shows don't show it because it's not relevant to the plot.

    Unless your story is about a romantic relationship or is porn, sex scenes are, by definition, gratuitous.

    Overlord is a story about a skeleton conquering the world, not a screwball sex romp between a lich and a succubus.
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