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    Man, that dusting Igvarge in cold blood... gives a new perspective not seen previously from Ainz. There's been a bit of introspection and talk from Ainz about his willingness to do certain things, but he's never actually gone to the lengths of doing them, so it was hard to take him seriously or simply concluding that he's over-thinking things.

    So in that regard, the incongruence I had with the previous episode has been completely diminished, though fact still remains that Shalltear lost control and went against some of Ainz wishes.

    Anyways, one episode left... I'm expecting to be left completely unsatisfied and wishing for another season that has slim chances of happening.

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    Second season has been greenlit. Just kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Second season has been greenlit. Just kidding.
    You're not fucking with me right?

    LOL, nice use of the font color!

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    Episode 12 - HS



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    Haha, an awesome amount of buffs Ains started the battle preparations with. It would have made an impressive row of icons on the screen. I couldn't help but laugh when he just kept going, casting more and more of them.

    A nice fight all in all. I can see why the others were so worried and why Shalltear has their respect battle prowess wise. A difficult opponent, even if the random group of adventurers took her down easily enough with the world class item. It's a good question why they simply left, leaving her there. Were they observing, leaving her there as a trap, or were they in a hurry to leave, licking their wounds?

    How seriously was Ains taking this? Or maybe it's a wrong question. He took this very seriously, but at the same time he was like a player who wanted to fight seriously but with some self-set handicaps. The biggest one was obviously going alone, but he also wasn't using any fancy equipment. Was that only to give whoever was observing as little information as possible? Or did he also want to show Shalltear, and the others, just what a supreme being is capable of? For the balance's sake it was positive Shalltear surprised him a couple of times.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how this is going to end.

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    So... now it's 13 episodes instead of 12?

    Once episode 12 was finished, I was thinking it would've been preposterous to end it like that. But looks like we're getting an extra episode for now.

    Anyways, best part of the episode was when Ainz was buffing up and casting all the preparedness spells. That was just awesome.

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    Ainz took off his armor for a cheap reason he will reveal in the next episode. It's his key to victory.

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if Ainz suddenly said, "Now I'm gonna use my mana potion. Full MP. You lose, Shaltear."
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Ainz took off his armor for a cheap reason he will reveal in the next episode. It's his key to victory.

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if Ainz suddenly said, "Now I'm gonna use my mana potion. Full MP. You lose, Shaltear."
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    In the end though, he's going to use those tags of his. I bet you that for a limited time only, Momonga gets to play as if he was another supreme being altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    A difficult opponent, even if the random group of adventurers took her down easily enough with the world class item. It's a good question why they simply left, leaving her there. Were they observing, leaving her there as a trap, or were they in a hurry to leave, licking their wounds?
    They cast the world item control over her, but she killed the caster before it could take full effect. The control didn't dissipate however and she was stuck in auto-defense. All the other allies didn't know she now lacked aggression and attacked her. The died.

    This isn't a trap. It's more like a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    They cast the world item control over her, but she killed the caster before it could take full effect. The control didn't dissipate however and she was stuck in auto-defense. All the other allies didn't know she now lacked aggression and attacked her. The died.

    This isn't a trap. It's more like a bug.
    Some of them were left alive, the guild told Ains as much. So, they didn't waste their lives entirely. But it indeed does make sense that only the very person who was holding the world class item would be able to issue the command, so it was useless for the others. Whoever survived, also took care of the corpses of their fallen comrades. It seems dubious some outsider would have retrieved the dead bodies when Shalltear was standing right there, with a weapon in hand. Even if this wasn't what the adventurers wanted, it doesn't mean they wouldn't want to know just who the hell Shalltear was and if more monsters will appear looking for her. That would be quite a basic precaution, assuming they were levelheaded enough for it anymore.

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    I thought he wasn't using own World Class items because if he were to lose then however was controlling Shaltear would simply have to loot him to get those items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    I thought he wasn't using own World Class items because if he were to lose then however was controlling Shaltear would simply have to loot him to get those items.
    Between losing an item and his own (un)life, I don't think he would choose the latter (his underlings are another matter entirely, like the scene with the twins demonstrated). If that was the only thing worrying him, he would have taken Albedo and Cocytus with him and made short work of Shalltear in a 3vs1 fight. Shalltear claimed Ains couldn't bring or summon anyone else because Shalltear would leech their HP, but that's bullshit. If she had three opponents, she could still only focus fully on one at a time. That one would simply use their whole strength to avoid any attacks while the other two would be free to concentrate their everything on attacking. The odds aren't linear in an unfair match with limited participants, they vastly favour the ones with superior numbers.

    We already saw a long time ago a scene where Ains made sure spies didn't see too much. That was when he slaughtered the theocracy troops. He has to consider every aspect of the game, being an Overlord!

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    Uh, Ains clearly said his true motive during the fight. He just, uhm, wanted to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Uh, Ains clearly said his true motive during the fight. He just, uhm, wanted to fight.
    So what? That's like saying a human wants to eat, sleep, and defecate. Big news. Of course he wants to fight, he's a player. He wouldn't have been a player of that game to begin with if he didn't. He would be playing Sims or some other shit instead. It goes without saying he wants to fight. We were talking about the details here.

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    Details which he mentioned didn't matter lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Details which he mentioned didn't matter lol.
    So, why does he suddenly have a different gear from normal, to the point Shalltear mentioned it, if it didn't matter? If it didn't matter, he would have gone there in his normal gear, the one we have been seeing all the time, not with lesser or greater. So, it indeed mattered. He would also have taken somebody with him, since he has always moved around with at least one other escorting him. Evidence is irrefutable.

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    It is true that his attire was minimalistic compared to when he's in Nazarick.

    I guess he feels that's enough to beat Shalltear.
    It partly explains Cocytus probabilities, that were a bit low for Ains. 30% is already too much of a gamble for such a small objective, justifiying getting some help if it was his maximum capacities...


    But it isn't the case. He's been there with lots of handicaps.
    I guess it serves several purposes:
    He does not disclose too much about the extent of his capabilities to any spies... Or even his underlings.
    He shows everyone he's boss, particularly his underlings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    He does not disclose too much about the extent of his capabilities to any spies... Or even his underlings.
    He shows everyone he's boss, particularly his underlings...
    Actually he's disclosing quite a lot about his personal capabilities since he has nothing else on him in that simple cloak. Except those ice cream sticks, but it's quite possible anybody seeing them wouldn't know what they are looking at. He's not disclosing anything about his origin, his possible associates, or any powerful artefacts he might possess (since it was such an item that took down Shalltear).

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    Shalltear didn't need to hit him for very long or do very much damage and she recovered significantly. The hit Ains received was incidental at best because of the mini-teleport. Her recovery capabilities with that lance are no joke.

    I assume it is based on percentage of total HP, because she had to kill quite a lot of her summoned critters to fully recover the second time.

    Taking anyone else with him really would have made it much harder to beat her. Especially the strong vassals.

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    I still don't agree on that. Since it was Ains alone, he needed to keep both attacking and defending at the same time, making him much more vulnerable. If he had competent allies with him, only the one Shalltear was targeting would need to defend and evade, but could do it 100%. So, if Shalltear ever fancied to really push and stick that lance into the target, she would get instantly backstabbed and beheaded by the others if she managed to hit successfully. Insta regen wouldn't do her much good if she had no heart or head.

    Ains used remarkably few necromancer spells during the bout, I have to say. Low level necromancer might be ill suited to fight powerful undead since necromancer attacks ought to be negative energy (anti-life) and such which would be meaningless, but a powerful necromancer in fact should be the second best match for undead monsters (after holy champions). I'm almost surprised Ains couldn't simply override Shalltear's condition at least partially and temporarily with some subdue/control spell. There's logically no way a necromancer could become a master necromancer without knowing how to beat the undead. Although I suppose that would have made a poor story.

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