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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?
    Sometimes I wonder why you even watch anime.

    Like, if it was up to you, every shonen series would end after the first arc. "Well, the badguy is clearly too powerful. Better just give up."

    They're attitude is fairly typical of "Never give up no matter what!" "I'll get stronger and defeat you." found all over the genre.

    Unfortunately for them, this series is a subversion and Ainz is the protagonist. But they don't know that. So they're still never going to give up.

    Like seriously, you're complaining about shit being boring, but you're also saying that it should be even MORE boring than it is because that's what would "make sense".

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Ainz is heartless against enemies, not his people. If they officially become his people, he'll be as nice as any ruler in their world
    Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.
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    He wouldn't have betrayed the King or Kingdom if he attached the condition of letting the soldiers flee. He would've sacrificed his pretty pride for the lives of his people, which is quite honorable.

    The muscleheads could've just realized that Warrior dood died like an idiot and then sided with Ainz, you know, like smarter people.

    I already addressed your respect comment in my previous post. You can't "respect" puppies and fight them equally. That's called bullying/use of excessive force.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.
    Then why did he bother to do the Momon act? He could've just slaughtered the kid and all humans in E Rantel. He is clearly trying to rule over them, not just commit genocide or oppress them like they think he would. I don't agree with him doing that (he is OP so just kill em all), but that's another issue.

    Also, I watch anime because not all of it is nonsensical. Just because I find something boring doesn't mean I'll just ignore nonsensical things. Those two are totally unrelated, except maybe the fact that their reaction is so cliche and predictable that it is also boring.

    My suggestion is to just ignore what I post if you think I'm nitpicking, because I probably am. You'll avoid a lot of stress that way.

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    You know, if any of you just said Ainz is doing all this nonsensical meandering because he enjoys it and finds it entertaining, I would've agreed. He did mention he wanted to check how his spell would work before the massacre. He likes to attach random rationales behind his actions, especially for the benefit of his image, but that's what it all boils down to. Why not take the easy route? Because the harder route is more fun.
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    I feel like his dropping the term "PVP" out loud today shows that's he's getting into it a bit too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.
    They are "his" people now. That village was not "his" until now.

    That being said. He doesn't care about his monsters either.
    All of them except a few are expendable.

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    I don't actually know where he draws the line. Are his death knights expendable? But he got pretty pissed when he thought spider girl was killed. Which are the ones he actually cares for and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.
    He protects those he has promised to protect or who have come under his rule one way or another. Like Sebas' waifu, whatever was her name. The village was not really under his rule, at least until now. It was still a part of the kingdom. Since his emotions are kind of limited, I suppose he didn't feel much about it one way or another, so he only wanted to make sure the potion boy didn't perish (or those whose deaths would render him as good as dead). I reckon things are now different with the village a part of his Sorcerous Kingdom. Anyone threatening the village would be insulting Nazarick.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I already addressed your respect comment in my previous post. You can't "respect" puppies and fight them equally. That's called bullying/use of excessive force.
    You respect puppies even less by allowing them to suffer longer before killing them. And still even less if you give them false hope before ending them. Ainz did tell Gazef the sword could theoretically hurt him, but Gazed of all people present wouldn't be stupid enough to think it mattered at all.

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    What I meant was you shouldn't respect puppies as opponents at all. They are cute and all, but they aren't beings I would squash with all my strength. If one challenged me, I'd just gently push it away until it gives up. Ainz actually liked this dood too, enough to recruit him.

    So Ainz's options were actually:
    1) Play fight warrior dood until he faints.
    2) Don't bother with all the duel shit and just kill him.

    I really think Ainz just wanted to entertain himself by doing all that ceremonial stuff. He even called it PVP, which is essentially a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I don't actually know where he draws the line. Are his death knights expendable? But he got pretty pissed when he thought spider girl was killed. Which are the ones he actually cares for and why?
    I would guess that the NPCs created by his old guildmates are the most important thing to him.

    The generic summoned death knights probably not so much.

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    Were spidergirl and the maid team all handcrafted NPCs? Or were they just premade that you choose/buy?
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    Not sure, but let me know if you do. Ima buy myself a Nabareal Gamma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Were spidergirl and the maid team all handcrafted NPCs? Or were they just premade that you choose/buy?
    I'm pretty sure any NPC with a name was probably created by one of the players.

    Edit: No wait, those goblins have individual names and they were clearly generic summons. Unless Enri named them.

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    All I remember is that Ainz mentioned or rather referred to them as children.
    So pretty sure they are created by one of the supreme beings.

    I think the most interesting things about the maids is the fact that we haven't seen their "unit"-leader yet.
    The bowser-arm maid is only the second in command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    What I meant was you shouldn't respect puppies as opponents at all. They are cute and all, but they aren't beings I would squash with all my strength. If one challenged me, I'd just gently push it away until it gives up. Ainz actually liked this dood too, enough to recruit him.

    So Ainz's options were actually:
    1) Play fight warrior dood until he faints.
    2) Don't bother with all the duel shit and just kill him.

    I really think Ainz just wanted to entertain himself by doing all that ceremonial stuff. He even called it PVP, which is essentially a game.
    He respected Gazef and thus he accepted the challenge given as a knight and received as a PvP duel. It would have been scumbaggish to ignore it. Ainz isn't really a scumbag, ruthless as he might be. Demiurge is the real villainous one with no moral code whatsoever, fittingly for a demon. It's true he might have pushed more for acquiring Gazef as an underling, but in the end he was refused quite strongly, so what good would Gazed have been in that role?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Were spidergirl and the maid team all handcrafted NPCs? Or were they just premade that you choose/buy?

    LN readers, spoil us!
    I'm 90% sure they are specially crafted as well by the players. At least I've no recollection saying they wouldn't have been. The size of the guild (and how much they pay to win) basically defined how many NPCs the base could maintain and how many of them could be of what level, as well as how much text they could contain (which would translate into a wholesome personality when they became alive). The place actually has plenty of such NPCs, the story just mainly concentrates on the guardians and the battle maids, but we did see some additional ones during the invasion arc, for example. Nazarick had lots of active players at its height and they apparently weren't shy on using real money, so it's a remarkable place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    It's true he might have pushed more for acquiring Gazef as an underling, but in the end he was refused quite strongly, so what good would Gazed have been in that role?
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    New season announced + film:

    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...roject/.172557

    Looks like this will adapt up to volume 13 or so, which is where the official translations are at.

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    Well, last season sucked, but I'm still in and hope to see humans fight back successfully this time.

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    Maybe I should get around to reading the last translated volume of the novel before the new season hits. I've been lacking the will to do it.

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    Oh cool.
    Maybe it'll be better this time. I actually like the upcomming stuff - pretty brutal shit.

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    just came across this randomly.

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