One-Punch Man

[Death BOO Z]

my reasoning:
1. Saitama isn't 'up-to date' with current events, he doesn't watch the news, he isn't aware of trends, and i don't think he has a cellphone, and when he meets a robot, he smacks it like an old CRT television.
2. one of the things he said that made him strong was to never use the AC.
3. him having a bookshelf of manga would indicate that he has some real interest in popular culture, which is not how he acted.
4. he has an early 90's gameboy.

however, while i was skimming through the manga to prove my point, it does appear he has has a laptop and flat screen TV, so I was wrong.

[Y]

All of this stuff was in the show already too.

https://i.imgur.com/99BgVUo.png

This is the 2nd shot in episode 2 of the first season.

[DarthEnderX]

I think he's just selective about his media consumption. Doesn't watch TV. Doesn't surf the web. Just plays video games and reads certain manga.

Or, knowing him, he can't afford to pay his cable or internet bill.

[MFauli]

So now Garou is fully a hero, sigh.

[Y]

I have no idea how you could miss the point of the show so badly that you are surprised Garou is heroic. Next you'll tell me the Heroes Association is actually not very heroic at all and full of self-important blowhards, frauds, traitors, layabouts and dilettantes! And wait, did you notice that Boros, the Tyrant of the Universe, has an identical motivation to Saitama and parallels him with the series main theme swelling up as he powers up for the final time? Something stinks here! We should get to the bottom of this!

[MFauli]

I have no idea how you could miss the point of the show so badly that you are surprised Garou is heroic. Next you'll tell me the Heroes Association is actually not very heroic at all and full of self-important blowhards, frauds, traitors, layabouts and dilettantes! And wait, did you notice that Boros, the Tyrant of the Universe, has an identical motivation to Saitama and parallels him with the series main theme swelling up as he powers up for the final time? Something stinks here! We should get to the bottom of this!

THen this show shouldn't have spent an entire season on hyping up Garou as a villain.

[Y]

THen this show shouldn't have spent an entire season on hyping up Garou as a villain.

I think you have confused what the characters in the show believe vs what is actually depicted going on. This is like saying King is hyped up as the ultimate power in the world.

[Y]

Episode 5:

So, obviously, this episode's animation and art are horrible. Moving on.

MFauli you're in good company - the director also missed the point of the show. In the manga, the horned monster transforms into a spear shape, and the mouse monster throws him at Garou. Garou flashes back briefly to the fight against the heroes who used the same tactic against him, then deflects it. This is really the only character moment in the scene, the rest of it is just B-plot stuff. It's drawing a parallel between the hero party that attacked Garou earlier and the monster party attacking him now.

In the show the director moves the shot where the horned monster attacks Garou alone forward because he doesn't actually know the point of the scene.

[MFauli]

Episode 5:

I feel bad for the studio. Clearly they don't get the budget needed for this anime. This fight against Orochi should be visually astounding, yet it looks total garbo.

And I just can't care about Garou. Now he just gets a constant stream of power increases out of thin air. It's one thing for Saitama to have his powers from comic relief, but Garou is just boring due to this writing.

Worse: What's with the tease of Saitama in this episode? So next episode Saitama will go sub-surface and one-hit Orochi. Funny, I guess? Eh.

This was a dumb episode. Fuck, I'm still annoyed Garou was such a pussy when he first met that monster dog. Totally out of character.

[Y]

And I just can't care about Garou. Now he just gets a constant stream of power increases out of thin air. It's one thing for Saitama to have his powers from comic relief, but Garou is just boring due to this writing.

Gyoro-gyoro explains that the strongest monster can be created by putting a normal person in life or death situations and at a billion to one oods their limit is slowly removed if they somehow survived.

He is unknowingly describing Saitama. The joke is that Saitama was so weak that heavy exercise was the equivalent to what Garou is surviving.

[DarthEnderX]

The Garou shit would be a lot more tolerable without the annoying fucking kid.

[Buffalobiian]

I wouldn't say it'd be a lot more tolerable. The kid is nothing against this shitty animation.

He is unknowingly describing Saitama. The joke is that Saitama was so weak that heavy exercise was the equivalent to what Garou is surviving.

But if the limit is removed slowly - as opposed to being released quickly.. then Saitama should have gotten gradually stronger and stronger. It's hard to argue that the exercise would have worked for long.

[DarthEnderX]

Yeah, heavy exercise wouldn't almost kill him every time. Especially since he doesn't increase his regimen.

[Y]

But if the limit is removed slowly - as opposed to being released quickly.. then Saitama should have gotten gradually stronger and stronger.

This is exactly what happened, at least for a little while. We see a Saitama that still has hair fight Crablante, a Tiger level monster at best, in a season 1 flashback and he barely wins. He's clearly above normal human level agility and strength (he isn't seriously injured by punches that are so strong they send him shooting into the air dozens of feet, he can jump up the 15 foot tall monster's body faster than it can react and tear its internal organs out by its eyestalk) but not the "Caped Baldy". Saitama's "gradual" strength increases were making impossible leaps at every stage, but they were still gradual.

Yeah, heavy exercise wouldn't almost kill him every time. Especially since he doesn't increase his regimen.

Yes, a normal person would adjust to the exercise regimen Saitama is undergoing easily, instead of it being 100 near-death experiences in a row. That's the joke. He has the joke-logic version of Garou's normal-anime-logic progression, like if there was a Saiyan who got a massive Zenkai boost from stubbing their toe as opposed to Goku and Vegeta who have to nearly die.

EDIT:

More seriously, fights against things like Crablante probably qualified as NDEs as well.

[DarthEnderX]

like if there was a Saiyan who got a massive Zenkai boost from stubbing their toe as opposed to Goku and Vegeta who have to nearly die.

But even if there WAS a Saiyan that weak, they wouldn't be after the first time it happened.

They'd stub their toe, almost die, get their first Zenkai boost, then be too strong for a stubbed toe to trigger it a second time.

Even if his first workout did trigger growth in Saitama, that growth would prevent it from triggering in subsequent workouts.

[Y]

Well I mean it did in fact happen that way, right? He did basic workouts and became powerful enough to fight low-grade disaster-level monsters, and then worked out some more and his hair fell out and he became too strong. We know this because it's been said many times already, by Saitama himself, completely sincerely and guilelessly. This isn't the kind of story where it's going to be revealed Saitama has Uchiha blood or whatever.

EDIT:

Also, we know the workouts were continually agonizing because Saitama says so when he first explains the workout regimen.

DOUBLE EDIT:

Actually according to the wiki he hadn't even started training yet when he fought the crab monster, which means the joke is that the rigors of daily life did this to him at least at first, not even his training.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I'm understanding your idea as:
-every time Saitama does 100 pushups he feels like he almost dies.
-The 1st time he did this, he felt like he almost died. He was 0% limit release. He was relatively weak.
-The 50th time he did this, he felt like he almost died. He was at 50% limit release. He was much stronger (and his strength was proportional to 50% limit release).
-The 90th time he did this, he felt like he almost died. He was at 90% limit release. He was very strong now, wrecking almost everything.
-After the 100th time he did this, he was at 100% limit release. He no longer has limits and wrecks everything.


My problem is that if he is getting stronger proportionally to his limit release, then the same exercise shouldn't tax him.
If we were to say that he merely only has to feel like it's dying (and the degree of physical exertion is irrelevant relative to his strength), then he should still feel that way after fights because it's all mental. Fighting Boris would have made him run/dodge/tank way more than those 100 pushups, so he should've felt drained from that fight.


I don't disagree with the idea that exercise is the only thing Saitama can think of that made him this way. What I struggle to agree with is that if growth was gradual, immediate and proportional - that somehow the final training pushup that Saitama did felt draining to him.

[DarthEnderX]

Well I mean it did in fact happen that way, right? He did basic workouts and became powerful enough to fight low-grade disaster-level monsters, and then worked out some more and his hair fell out and he became too strong.

We literally have no idea. We have absolutely zero idea how Saitama's actual development happened.

We have one scene of him before he tried to become a hero, and a single statement of him describing his daily workout routine. We have seen the beginning point and the end point, with absolutely nothing in between. And only the word of an EXTREMELY inattentive and scatterbrained character as to how it happened.

Saitama is someone who could have eaten a monster cell at some point in the past, and passed it off as the time he got some spoiled cabbage at the store. He's an unreliable narrator, because he doesn't pay attention to anything.

[Y]

Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Well, yes, that's part of the joke. His strength doesn't make sense. You are Genos in season 1 going "but it can't just be that!"

EDIT:

On an unrelated note:

https://x.com/drivespace_gta/status/1987994375721214130

This is straight up better than the actual episode I think. Yes, even with the guy getting Facebook notifications from his mom during the video.

[DarthEnderX]

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