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    Library Girl? You mean Drilloli?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Library Girl? You mean Drilloli?
    yes. her.

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    Maybe it's just me but I have no fucking clue what Subaru is trying to say sometimes.
    He keeps talking and talking and uses up about 5 minutes to cheer someone up and all he ever said was basically "cheer up, please laugh/keep smiling."
    It's somewhat annoying. It isn't a rare situation in anime per se, it always feels like the author want's to be extra "deep" or something, but man... it's feels so poorly written, or.."forced" and Rem kept repeating herself as if Subara didn't adress her worries at all.
    I don't know how it could've been better, but this seemed to be a moment where you could make the viewer *think* about stuff and thus make him sympathise. Instead, he made Subara say something every normal human being would say, but it took him 5 minutes instead of 30seconds.
    I really do not like his constant fooling around btw. It gets frustrating. "Can't you talk to her like a normal human being and not your *uguuuu* your so cute emilia tan - voice?!"

    Watched ep 11, btw.

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    Ep 12:







    Man, that was hard to watch. It was written well enough, but I personally hate it when main characters act in a pathetic manner. If I wanted to watch pathetic people, I'd just turn on the news.

    I also really hate stupid miscommunication as a drama trope. How about telling Emilia that he can't explain even if he wanted to? The restriction on his info leak is only restricted to revealing about his ability to revive and that he was trapped in a loop. Saying that he has a reason, one not of his choosing, for not being able to tell Emilia about it should certainly be doable based on his ranting about being the hero who saved everyone.

    Subaru is tragic here because the Emilia he is talking to barely knows him, at least not as much as he knows her. However, that doesn't excuse him being stupid and lashing out at her. His ability/curse to loop back should've given him some maturity. He died enough times for that, but unfortunately, he's still a dumb kid.

    I honestly think a smarter, less silly main character would've made this story far better. That, and a main character design that doesn't look like thug C.
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    Yup, I agree.
    He's ruining it a bit. I can't stand it when he starts fooling around like a retard.
    Isn't he supposed to be a shut in anyway? Why does he talk so much....

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    I hate his nonsensical, overbearing behavior, it is SO cringeworthy. When he started defending Emilia in the throne room by loudly shouting, I felt SO embarrassed for Subaru, ugh. He is NOT important to this ceremony, yet he makes it all about himself. You know, when Emilia later at the end accused him that he´s doing all this stuff only for himself, she was wrong. But that behavior in the throne room, in front of hundreds of people? Totally egocentric behavior. Sigh.

    The end, however, had me feel for Subaru. Damn, what a scene. If I were Subaru, I would have told Emilia, "you know ... I love you". Then stand up, run out of the room before she can reply anything. Then I´d go on a 5 year journey where I´d train my sword skills and magic spells. Afterwards, I´d return to town when Emilia is long queen. I´d defeat the evil dragon, then half-dead return to Emilia and say "I really always did it all just for you", before fainting. I´d then wake up in a nice bed, and Emilia would sit next to me. We´d stare each other in the eye for minutes, silently, when I say "Will you marry me?", and Emilia would simply nod and smile. THE END.

    Ok, sorry for the fanfiction, but that ending scene triggered me.

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    Go away doing your selfish thing for 5 years and Emilia is married with 5 children...
    As painful as this episode looked like, it did point at relationship truths I experienced as a teenager.
    Even if the delivery isn't the best, that anime tries to point at other behavior and relations.

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    That whole selection council, or whatever, was a bit of a circus...

    Subaru did perish this episode in a new and even more revolting (to the viewership) way than ever before. He dies socially to all of his relationships and everything he's built up so far in this world, except Rem, I guess... One arrogant speech at the wrong time followed by a pathetic battle, followed by a super painful conversation with Emilia where he went from "I'm doing this to repay you for saving my life" to "You owe me more than you could every pay for the things I've fixed for you!" when she wouldn't buy it. Given the options available, I can appreciate that he was disappointed he didn't die. This isn't the kind of mess you can clean up (within the scope of a 2 cour anime) without a magical reset, which Subaru actually has. Good luck kid, you're gonna need it and a couple of respawns. Color me surprised if he manages without them.

    I don't mind him making a fool of himself. I just wish it were a little more subtle, the mistakes he makes. Actually, could this be a satire of saccharine anime platitudes, like world jumping protagonists converting entire cultures to their 'progressive' viewpoints? File that under 'too much credit given'?

    For how frustrating it was to watch, one thing is guaranteed. I'm sticking around to see what happens next.

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    You can actually do as MFauli described, but kill yourself at the end of every day for 5 years. That way you're useful to her now, and she won't have kids.

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    I wonder if the solution to this current dilemma will be as simple as the upcoming auto-loop. Remember, Subaru doesn´t have to die to initiate a jump-back-in-time. It´d be kinda lame, because as neflight said, this isn´t a situation you can easily resolve without freaking magic. Which is why I felt like going on a lonely, self-finding journey, lol (I also happened to rewatch Berserk, Gutsjust became independent).

    If, and that´s a big if, all of what´s currently happening is intended that way by the author, then maybe we will finally find out just how much of a "otaku" and shut-in Subaru truly is. Remember, myself and many other´s here thought it was silly how Subaru claimed to be a shut-in, yet acted with so much bravado from episode 1 onwards. It never made sense. Adding this with his "you owe me more than you can ever repay1"-outburst sounds a lot like classical "niceguy syndrome". Expecting Emilia to owe him, when she never asked for it. And even if she did, it´s still Subaru´s decision to do so. But you don´t have a right to get anything in return.

    Obviously, I´m setting up myself for disappointment, but it would be kinda great if Subaru turned out to be a really nasty otaku after all. Being all confident and happy so far only because he never accepted it as "real". Now things don´t go his way and maybe his true nature starts showing. Would do for some nice introspective, him reverting back to his real otaku-self, while still being in this fantasy world. Then he could become more humble and start working towards bettering himself.

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    That's be inconsistent with what's been shown so far. Surprise traumas don't make sense.

    I find Emilia's response funny, though. She says she wants to return the favor to Subaru (and cut of their relationship), but she can never do that. Doing so requires for her to die a few times for his sake, something only he, ironically, can do. I wonder how these girls would feel after learning just how hard and how much pain Subaru had to go through for their sakes?
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    As hard as the scene was, I do not think it is that difficult for Emilia and Subaru to reconciliate.
    They are both trapped into their needs and lack of understanding. But they have yet to trully understand and accept each other.
    Subaru's dark ego coming out was a reaction to Emilia cutting ties.
    Anything magical or the likes reconciliating them would be pointless, as they need to accept each other and act on their relationship as any couple of friends or lovers would do.
    Or they can just separate for good and that wasn't much

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    Ep 14 is out!

    Oh boy....

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    They could've cut all the emo crap to half and skipped to the killing part so we didn't have to suffer through Subaru's strange decline to patheticness.

    We all know we're gonna get a reset at this point. I do wish it wasn't Subaru's fault that everyone died, which seems likely after the ninja cultists bowed to him in gratitude before leaving. That would be more dramatic, but I'm sick and tired of his immaturity and weakness at this point. Can't the author give him one other useful ability aside from resetting?

    I'm in the Rem camp right now. In fact, I think she's the only character I like in the story.
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    Kinda makes sense Subaru isn't all there. I mean he has died a few times. I think it would be almost impossible to remain 'normal' after that. He thinks he can solve everything as long as he is there and dies to prevent it. The dude doesn't even value his own life if you look at it like that.

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    Being insane is different from being pathetic. If he changed to become a cold-blooded bastard that could actually get things done, not get insulted by everyone and their mother, and not get beaten up every episode, I'd be celebrating right now.

    Just imagine if he abused his reset ability to train for decades and became as strong and insane as Hisoka from HxH? That'd be a masterpiece.

    The thing is, this story is clearly designed to be long. This is the pathetic phase, and that will eventually change. Unfortunately, the anime will supposedly end at the end of this arc, so I'm not sure if we will ever get to the payout phase of this pitifest.
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    Good episode. Also screw Emilia, Rem is best girl and Subaru is dumb if he doesn´t realize it at some point.

    I´pretty sure I´ve figured out the current scenario: Obviously, Subaru is about to die. I´d say he commits suicide because he actively decides to keep Rem from dying. Although maybe he also runs into the murderer and is killed. Whatever. What´s going to follow is this: He will instantly ask for Reinhard´s help, sending him to Emilia´s place. Subaru follows, obviously a lot slower. This results in ... no change at all, except he´ll find Reinhard´s corpse, stabbed, too. THAT SHOCK! At that point Subaru might try to ask the asshole that fought him for help. But he might fail at getting that help. Which leaves him but one choice: Keep training with the horse guy! You mention above that he could train, reset, train, reset, and so on for a looong time. I think that´s exactly what´s going to happen. Subaru trains for a couple days, then kills himself, rinse and repeat. All of that will result in him becoming a quite capable sword fighter. At some point, the horse guy will tell Subaru that has nothing left to teach him. That´s the day when Subaru returns to Emilia´s place ... TOGETHER with the asshole guy, who is now intrigued by Subaru´s "sudden" rise in power/ability. Subaru, asshole guy, Reinhard and Rem arrive together at Emilia´s place and finally manage to change their fate. Although I assume that somebody WILL die, making it a very bitter victory (and it´s no use re-doing it, because Subaru realizes that this was their best and only chance).

    But seriously, Subaru, go for Rem. She better than Emilia in every conceivable way. First and foremost, she´s no filthy half-elf!!1

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    Why do you keep writing cliched and abrupt alternate scenarios all the time in your posts? I'm not criticizing you. I'm just curious.

    I completely agree that Subaru should go for Rem, but that'll never happen because this is anime.

    Subaru needs more than sword skills to become useful. He needs an OP skill, which he won't get because the title of the story is "From Zero."

    Is Subaru enough of a loser now for you to relate to him? Again, this is not meant to offend you. I'm genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Why do you keep writing cliched and abrupt alternate scenarios all the time in your posts? I'm not criticizing you. I'm just curious.

    I completely agree that Subaru should go for Rem, but that'll never happen because this is anime.

    Subaru needs more than sword skills to become useful. He needs an OP skill, which he won't get because the title of the story is "From Zero."

    Is Subaru enough of a loser now for you to relate to him? Again, this is not meant to offend you. I'm genuinely curious.

    This is completely unrelated, but do you have a job? Please don't answer if you don't want to.

    lol, where´s that coming from? No, I don´t have a job, I´m focusing on studying at the moment ... right this moment, semesters finals start on Wednesday :/

    And I don´t see how you can reasonably attack my "clichee" scenarios. Re Zero is full of clichees, so why wouldn´t another one be a possibility? Matter of the fact is that he needs to become stronger, dependable upon beyond mere words. Otherwise he cannot be much more than Emilia´s "fanboy". Since we ALREADY had him seen learn the local language by resetting time, it makes sense to use that method again for learning something else, in the case sword fighting.

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    In short: Subaru is too low level. He needs to grind more.

    I'm getting pretty sick of this show being about Rem and Subaru. Bring back the disemboweling lady already. She was the most interesting thing about this show. And Puck.

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