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    @Mfauli - I'm not attacking you or comparing your ideas to this show. It's just a general observation of your posting habits. I actually thought you were intentionally writing cliche stuff to make a point or something.

    I apologize if you were offended. Curiosity got the better of me.

    @Buff - What's wrong with Rem? She's like the only nice girl in the show now after Emilia abandoned Subaru.
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    I have a question:
    Why is Subaru so involved ?
    I mean, he started as a shut-in player. He thought that was a nice game.
    But now, he's so involved he's borderline -or already- crazy.

    Emilia/Rem aren't sufficient explanation.
    I thought it could be the death and associated pain experiences. I also understand he tries his best to get out of each loop.
    But really his attitude is incredibly far from the one he had at first.

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    He's clearly in love with Emilia. How is that not sufficient?

    If you're asking why he is so pathetic right now, I blame the author for forcing drama into the story.
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    For some reason I can't accept love as an excuse, because I'm not sure he really loves her and he knows what love is.
    Last week's ep even hinted at some kind of egoïstical problem, even if maybe just an exagerated reaction to Emilia's harsh words.
    Some of the reactions I read here also pointed to some kind of insanity.
    But he might just be on edge, or near breaking, after experiencing death so many times, and in many forms.
    I'm still wondering wether I do not like those eps is because the delivery is bad, or because the subject is so negative I'd rather watch something else... Like fanservice

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    Well, he was humiliated, spurned, and then abandoned too. Even without the deaths, his character breakdown is reasonable. That doesn't mean I like it.
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    I agree.
    Seems like we are still waiting for a lighter anime, when in fact it was pretty heavy from the start with the bowel psycho.
    Then, it might be it's not my cup of tea after all.

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    Oh I'm fine with darkness. In fact, I love it. What I don't like is a pitiful protagonist (in the sense that he himself acts in dumb, emo, immature ways), and those two don't need to go together at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    @Mfauli - I'm not attacking you or comparing your ideas to this show. It's just a general observation of your posting habits. I actually thought you were intentionally writing cliche stuff to make a point or something.

    I apologize if you were offended. Curiosity got the better of me.
    My whole "go on a journey to become stronger" fanfic is certainly clichee. Iīm not so much offended as I am irritated. Of course, I could come up with dozens of non-clichee scenarios, but thatīs not exactly a feat, either, is it. We have a fixed catalogue of situations that keep occurring in anime. Each of these situations has another fixed catalogue of possible reactions/consequences. In the case of Subaru and seeing how weak he is, finding a way to get stronger is both clicheed as it is reasonable to expect. If I started creating routes that diverge too much from that catalogue, it might be a fun fanfic, but in 99% of all cases Iīd waste my time, because nobody is interest in reading random fanfic.

    As for what David is touching upon, I agree. I donīt know if it was earlier in this thread or elsewhere that I mentioned that maybe Subaru isnīt that great, nice guy whoīs out there to help everybody for their sake. Itīs always been weird that he was introduced as a hikkikomori. Maybe thereīs a darker side to his personality.

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    If so, I find it strange that it's only showing up now. It's like the author thought that Silly Subaru was too shallow and one dimensional, so he introduced a dark past (assuming there is one), which affects him in the current arc (only) all of a sudden.
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    I think this show maintains its tension best when the audience doesn't know when or if there will be a reset. Events this episode force either there to be a reset, or the main character becoming essentially a stalker or villain. While the later would probably be more entertaining to watch, it would be less satisfying and break convention to the point of being... alienating to the audience itself, since we have been given so much time to see the redeeming qualities of Subaru for the first 10 episodes, and thus highly unlikely.

    My point is that I feel there is a precarious balance between the intrigue of Subaru's next reset and the reality of the scope of this story being improbable to explore, in depth, those types of machinations. That's not a bad thing, just a different direction than I would have preferred the show to go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta
    Buff - What's wrong with Rem? She's like the only nice girl in the show now after Emilia abandoned Subaru.
    She's a psycho and is out to kill you just because you didn't die a few times to earn her trust.

    I also think her design is boring. I would like this show better if that arc was skipped entirely and went from "Rescue in the Slums" straight to "The competition to be King" arc here.

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    Eh? And miss the maid wakiness that took place? Rem is intentionally boring, being a dandere. Ram is the plain boring one. And don't forget Subaru has the witch's magic all over him, and he shut himself off from interacting with anyone. From the maids' perspective, he's as suspicious as hell, so they tried to interrogate him to protect Emilia. It's brutal and cruel, but not meaningless.
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    I dont really like how "extreme" Subarus feelings are. Its like he is bipolar and he can only experience joy and grief in peaks. maybe it s something intended but for the watcher, if its a rational human being, it becomes just cringe.

    Said that I like how Subaru started thinking, and to some point he still does, about this fantasy world as a "fairy tale". Actually its a mix of a quite brutal world with ludicrous morals and customs.

    He is a nobody but gets shelter and helped, something that in our society even if someone gave you a hand you wouldnt probably do, but at the same time he gets target/murdered for "free". We would think about interrogation, incarceration, to know if he is a witch tool but here they just directly watch you for a few days and if you dont actually work your "reputation" you directly get chopped.

    Also you are in the streets of the capital in broad daylight and you get murdered by bandits as easy as you get saved by a knight. Or you make friends total strangers in a town and the whole town gets murdered in the blink of an eye. Or you get helped to heal by using exclusive services of one of the best healers for free as you get threatened, in a serious tone, as a rivals peon.

    Im not explaining it to well but this show gives me the feeling of mixing fantasy idealism (magic, maids, elves, knights) with crude and gore (dying over nothing, high chance of getting in crossfires with no regard for life, customs of supreme courtesy and 5 seconds later they spill your guts out).
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    How do you feel about that mix? That's the main thing I didn't get about your post.

    I agree with you about bipolar Subaru. He seems like a caricature instead of a real person.
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    What Iīd like to ask everyone: How would you feel about Subaru if his weird/changing behavior is just that, no deeper meaning, and is never explained? Would you criticize that? Or, in other words: Do you EXPECT there to be some sort of important twist regarding to Subaruīs person? Whatever that twist might be.

    I cannot get over the fact that he was introduced as a hikkikomori but never showed any of the typical signs, quite the opposite. Except for 2 episodes before, when he lashed out at Emilia in the most egocentric, like you would expect a fedora-wearing "nice guy" to behave once he learns that he doesnt get what he "deserves".

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    The meaning is bad writing.
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    Beako.

    I love this comment on reddit:
    "Heh, she is not retarded like all other female characters in re:zero."

    This person is so right.
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    Beako is great. I hope she shows up in this coming arc.
    Satomi Arai needs more voice roles.

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    episode 15 is out
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    wtf ... was that an episode or part of a movie? Insane quality in all areas ...

    Lost some tears during Remīs "death" in front of Betelgeuse.

    If this series doesnīt give some STRONG, compelling arguments for SubaruaXEmilia, anything but SubaruXRem will feel wrong. Wow. This was pretty much a modern recreation of "that scene" in BERSERK.

    Rem is such an awesome character. She goes ways beyond the clichee of the loli. Sheīs genuinely awesome, not merely "Iīm shinta and shes a waki-showing loli"-awesome.

    This episode guaranteed that Iīll be buying a figure of her whenever a good one is released over at amiami.com. Need to give her that kind of nod.

    Fuck.

    What an episode.

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    Subaru seems to be cursed by the witch.
    A very strong,,yet almost undetectable curse with failsafe: he can't tell about his revival curse.

    Then at the end of the ep, we have that massive beast, female voice, that seems to speak of Emilia as her daughter. Such massive power has you think she could be the witch.

    But then: why choose Subaru for the curse. He was a nobody in the begining.
    Why would the witch worshippers kill Emilia

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