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    The giant beast is Puck, right? It used ice just like Emilia did when tapping into his power. Puck killed Subaru twice for being late in trying to save Emilia, who is now dead.

    That was an excellent episode. I hope Subaru is now a lot more driven with revenge in his heart. It may not be logical, but it sure as hell beats his pathetic loser mode. I've always liked avengers. Now we have one.

    Bullshit how Rem could move after her neck got all twisted like that, but okay.

    I love Rem, so I should hate the crazy guy more, but I really don't. He accused Subaru of "acting" insane, but he is the most guilty of that. Has there ever been a more forced insane character in a show? Yes, the wrench guy in Baccano, but this guy comes in as a close second. It was just cringe worthy. "Look at me, I'm an insane villain! Whoopdeedoo." Umm, kay.

    What happened to Beako? If they had show her being mauled by those cultists, then I would've flipped my top.

    This was (and still is) my phone wallpaper before I watched this episode:


    Rest in peace.

    Oh wait, you're alive again. No problem then.
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    I didnīt mind Betelgeuseīs over-the-top craziness, because what he said about Subaru was spot on: Subaru hadnīt really gone insane. He experienced something that depressed him and he felt the need to express that depression by not-caring-about-the-world. Itīs a state of being spiteful to everything, because you feel like everything goes against you. But itīs not real insanity, which Subaru was sort-of pretending to have entered. Betelgeuse basically gave Subaru a very needed real-talk, that was necessary ever since his embarrassing behavior at the candidate meeting-hall and the following outlashing against Emilia. Betelguise made it clear to Subaru that being "like that" wonīt help him any bit. And in the end it worked out in Subaruīs favor, as we could witness.

    I didnīt think of Puck. Might be him, yeah. Would make it even better. Although why would he refer to Emilia as "daughter"? Maybe itīs a similar spirit like Puck, but nit exactly him.

    My biggest complaint right now remains that it feels we could easily go 50 episodes right now. Subaru still has to find out what really happened inside the mansion. We know that there are members for every deadly sin, akin to Fullmetal Alchemist. And thereīs still the overarching plot, the priestess choice and the mystery behind Subaru. How are 10 episodes enough to conclude all that? Wah!

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    They are gonna rush through it a bit. I think there are 5 novels for this 3rd arc, so I guess 4 more in the remaining ten episodes.
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    After Rem crawled over to him, I half expected Beetlegeuse to pop out of the shadows and laugh at him as he just puppeteered her over there.

    I'm pretty sure that was Puck. Sounded like Puck for both for the first death "You're too late" and the last bit at the end, and makes sense.

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    Puck is a great spirit as Emilia described it one that said she would freeze everything should something happen to Emilia. Puck treats her like a daughter. Besides...look at her ear. Same earring Puck has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles View Post
    After Rem crawled over to him, I half expected Beetlegeuse to pop out of the shadows and laugh at him as he just puppeteered her over there.
    I would've written it that way, so I half-expected that too lol.
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    Rem won some serious points this episode. I'm pro-Rem now too.

    She's so much more enjoyable when she's applying herself. Previously she was either "I hate Subaru" to "I deserve no happiness, I must BESERKER!"

    Let this be the final "Subaru the Loser" episode for some time to come now. I need some of the better stuff we had earlier.

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    Hasn't Subaru always been a loser? He's weak as shit. I mean, he's much worse recently, but I don't want him to revert to his originally crappy self. I want an avenger who's willing to die 1000x to get powerful and to pawn his enemy for the sake of, well, nothing really, because everyone is alive and well again.
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    So giant Puck can get out at night too ?

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    Maybe the reason Puck falls asleep at night is to prevent his true form from pawning everything.
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    Oh, dark Puck at night ? Why not.

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    Then I demand a real good explanation why "Dark Puck" didnīt save Emilia in the beginning, when an assassin tried to murder her.

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    Because he was asleep?

    Maybe Puck went berserk after, but Subaru was too dead to see it.
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    Ep 14 and 15 were pretty good, I like the fact that Sloth called him Pride, because in episode 14 (and 13), you could clearly see that pride is his most important feeling.

    I *literally* said to myself: "Fuck man, your pride is seriously eating you alive right now" during episode 14, so I can at least say that the author did a good job in visualizing this. His breakdown seemed extremely realistic to me too. Not really talking about what happened in episode 15, because that was mindbreaking and disgusting shit, no normal person could remain calm and sane after this and I have absolutely no clue what to make out of this weird stuff.

    However, Subaru's situation is completely fucked up right now... it's always easy to forget this, especially because manga/LN authors forget to mention it as frequently as they should, but he is *lost* in a world he knows nothing about. He dedicated his entire presence to Emilia, because the world itself had clearly no place for him. He wasn't the MC he hoped to be, he didn't have the powers he needed and he's experiencing stuff over and over again that most normal persons are afraid of even if they know it's coming - death. (and most of these deaths are connected with betrayal and complete desperation)

    When Emilia tried to cut ties with him, Subaru's situation got even more dire and that was shown pretty darn well when he broke down in both anger and fear. Plus, his pride literally stopped him from accepting it too - so he kept walking into more shit.

    I really hope that they can capitalize on this and make Subaru somewhat useful now (otherwise it would get depressing). That spooky monster at the end, which looked like some kind of ratman to me tbh, made me all jumpy too.

    Whatever it was, the world he's in just became even more alien to him (and us). Since he himself remained pretty much a "weak human" after all this, it's starting to get really difficult to believe that he can change anything.
    So, as mentioned above, they really need to make Subura awesome now.

    Then I demand a real good explanation why "Dark Puck" didnīt save Emilia in the beginning, when an assassin tried to murder her.
    For the same reason he (if it's "Dark Puck") didn't save her this time.

    edit: rewatched it, it most certainly *is* Puck.

    He looks like Master Splinter/The White Rat to me, but his silhouette had Pucks earring too and it makes sense if we consider what Puck has said before.
    It actually became a really sad ending scene because of that. His actions confirm that Emilia is dead or just died at that point and Puck basically says that Subaru is "worthy" of sleeping by her side (in death).
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    He needs to abuse his resurrection to learn as much as he can about swordsmanship and magic. Even if his body reverts, his knowledge, experience, and honed intuition won't. Just do that about 74.234 times after killing himself each time Emilia dies (just to make sure he doesn't exceed the time limit or something) and he'll be OP eventually.

    Or... he's like a Grimgar character who's gonna be weak ass no matter what.

    Then I'll drop this.
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    I have no doubts that he'll make use of his "dark powers" inside him at one point. But instead of training and dying 75k times, I'd actually prefer it if he can somehow outwit his enemies instead.
    The "mc trained a lot"-approach will often end up in brute-forcing every single encounter.

    "I can beat him, I didn't train and endure it, just to give up now" - yada yada etc. etc.
    I hope they can somehow turn him around and make him awesome without going 100% shounen.
    Heck, he doesn't have to win most of his fights. As long as he isn't freaking stupid and starts to learn from them, I'm totally fine with him dying every 2 episodes.

    He's been the underdog who fights dirty since the very beginning, I'd like it if they can keep that in mind. Owning people who are stronger than him by playing dirty is awesome in it's own way.

    edit: And since I want to cross my fingers too: I want him to become the devil himself and kill everything and everyone that made him suffer.
    MGS:TTP style. Pretty please?
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    But Krayz, Subaru is stupid. He can't outwit anyone except maybe himself.

    Also, more experience and skill doesn't equal brute force wins. In fact, those should allow him to handle more situations in better ways, just because he's experienced them before. More magic means more options. It isn't necessarily going to be nuke spells.

    I'm fine with underdogs, but not whipped dogs. He's the latter right now.
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    Training to boost his stats is one way.

    Using all the predictions to go Edge of Tomorrow style is another.

    Too bad there's no other option really.

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    Subaru doesnīt have the physical skill to "go Edge of Tomorrow style". He wouldnīt be able to doge a single attack of Betelgeuseīs. Maybe a big one, but then itīd be followed up with some quick attack and game over again.

    "Boosting his stats", as I had recommended, too, isnīt that great, either. Heīd have to find something that relies on knowledge/experience, rather than "stats", because he can never grow muscles, gain flexibility and such. Therefore learning magic might be his best path towards victory.

    Of course, maybe itīs all in the arrangement. As Iīve mentioned repeatedly: At the beginning of this current cycle, we saw that his rival with Emily, Reinhardt, the horse guy and the transgender cat are all there. Maybe thereīs a puzzle-like way to put each of them against a certain enemy to rescue Emilia without any downsides. Obviously, Reinhardt would have to fight Betelgeuse.
    But Iīm not sure if Iīd be satisfied with that option, either. I kinda WANT Subaru to achieve something on his own, not just use the curse as a cheat tool and the only thing he sacrifices is hit life, oh-so-tragic. meh.

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    We don't even know if there is a limit to his resurrection or the side effects of it. So far the only thing that is getting worse is the miasma of the witch which demon's and cultists can sense.

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