It is? What are we doing here then?
Kidding aside, I meant juvenile in terms of writing quality, not content. If they didn't want to kill Eraserhead, there are tons of ways to change that scene without making it seem so scripted and illogical. But you probably knew that.
Peace.
EP 12 is out!
And quite awesome.
Nearly every week, the testosterone surge makes my day.Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin
"In each of our hearts" sounds ominous. All-Might's way too awesome to kill off. Don't do it.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
It's unbelievable how much Deku is looking down on All-Might. Almost as unbelievable is that nobody was targeting that exposed brain. There's quite a difference between regenerating an arm or a brain. For the arm you need nothing but the DNA, but a brand new brain would contain no information, rendering the whole monster next to useless. I'd have preferred a scene where the brain was destroyed, but it would have turned out to be a bait, with the real brain located somewhere else in that big body.
A good ep, all in all.
The brain design, as expected, was retarded from the start, especially if no one even tries to hit it. I wish it were some kinda trap to lure all might into hitting it, and then causing some kind of poison/weakening effect/suicide bomb attack when he does. But no, we get an exposed vital untouched in a fist fight...
But that's not the dumbest thing in this fight. Ice dude, as I predicted from 2-3 episodes ago, failed to make use of his imba powers. Why didn't he freeze the entire bird brain dude right after All Might got free? It takes him seconds, maybe less, to use his power. With the entire body frozen, including the exposed brain (lol), regeneration and shock absorption are both meaningless... He is like the ultimate enemy of bird dude, yet he just stood there chatting with everyone, waiting for the enemy to recover. WTF. Why? Plot.
Also, why didn't Bakugo blow up the teleporting villain, arguably the lynch pin of the villains' plan, when he had like a minute to do so? He even game him a few warning shots, showing he could do it. THEN JUST DO IT. You don't need to kill him. Heck, if spacesuit lady was still alive with half a (hollow!?) body, a black goo can survive a half blown-up main body.
The best part of this episode, as it always is, is the activation of One for All. Every guy likes to watch a gar fist fight, and that's what we got. Again, with awesome musical timing and great animation, and a nice hero space punch finisher trope to top it all off.
That said, All Might is just being stupid here. The best way to overcome the situation was to make use of the unique talents of the kids behind him while he was able to fight. Just grab bird dude for a moment and let the ice guy freeze him while Bakugo keeps teleport dude busy. Izuku and the other guy can go ahead and distract hand dude. This entire exchange should only take 5 seconds, judging from how fast they all moved.
Then with bird brain all frozen, he can just use the rest of his minute to pulverize the remaining 2 villains who aren't fit to fight him. But oh well. This is a hero story after all. You gotta get into a pinch first before being forced to Toguro 120% your way out of it. The excuses matter little from the creator's POV, apparently. This plan wouldn't even be necessary if Ice and Fire kids did the most logical thing in the situations earlier, but whatever.
If All Might dies here, the villains don't deserve any credit. It's all going to be on the heroes side, where every single one of them overestimated their abilities, acted arrogant, and didn't take the situation with the gravity it deserved.
EDIT:
Has it ever been explained why granny nurse can't just cure All Might? He's missing organs, sure. But then he could just get a transplant and use his "stamina" to recover from the operation. It may have been mentioned, but I don't recall.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sun, 06-19-2016 at 09:42 AM.
Peace.
Fancy strategies and intelligent tactics aren't usually in favour in shounen shows. Villains may try to use nefarious plans, but the heroes just smash those apart and push forward.
How is completely freezing a threat on par with All Might a fancy strategy? How is irreparably damaging a teleporting villain when you finally have them in your clutches an intelligent tactic? How is not touching an exposed brain in a fist fight even called a "plan?"
I won't blame kids for not being geniuses. They're still in hero school. But these mistakes are common sense mistakes. Anyone with a decent brain, and they all do, having passed the UA exam, should've been able to figure that out.
I'm a fan of gar fights, like I said. I just don't like it when heroes act dumber than they should. There are better ways to present this, trust me. I never complain/nitpick about anything without an alternative in mind.
A few simple fixes to stress my point:
1) Bird dude escapes, ripping his frozen limbs off, immediately after being frozen, ravenously rushes away from the heroes, and then regenerates. Instinct compels a creature to retreat to recover, not display a vulnerable state in front of the enemy.
2) Bakugo actually does try to blow up shadow dude. But shadow dude survives the blast by instantly warping himself downward into the floor when Bakugo was distracted (plenty of moments for this). Shadow dude takes damage but doesn't get killed.
3) All Might actually tries to hit the brain, and does, disabling bird dude. But then the bird dude still recovers with a new brain and a proper skull this time, adding to his recovery power a subpower of adaptation. The creature seems to operate on instinct anyway. This might make him even stronger without the limits of rationality.
See? Simple changes that nullify all the lapses in logic or dumb character decisions we saw this episode. And despite all these changes, it still connects perfectly to All Might going berserk. His students tried their best and failed, so he needs to step up to protect them.
Another thing I really hate about shounen shows in general is all the standing around and dialog during fights. That's why HxH was so good. They opted for a proper narrator to explain the events instead of relying on overused narrative devices like villain declarations and monologues.
I just don't want to excuse all these flaws as "hey, it's shounen" when we all know it could've been done better. This show does a lot of things extremely well. Why did they have to slack off in the logic department?
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sun, 06-19-2016 at 10:32 AM.
Peace.
Sorry the tactics, or lack thereof, aren't to your liking, but I really enjoyed this climax. Good buildup not wasted on a well animated fight. Looks like one episode to go?
It's not the tactics but the delivery. Some of the strategy in this show is excellent, such as the whirlpool+sticky ball combo last episode. I just don't think talking is a free action, or that people should just let downed opponents get back up. Those are both sickening tropes for me.
Peace.
He's not looking down on him. No one admires All-Might more than Deku.
It's only that everyone else thinks All-Might is invincible. Deku knows exactly how close All-Might cuts his heroics. He's seen All Might cough up blood. He's seen All Might scrawny as hell. He knows that at any moment All-Might will collapse from over-exertion.
The day he does that in front of an enemy is the day villains no longer fear All-Might, dead or alive.
Deku's concerns are real.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Yes, he is looking down on him. Just how long has All-Might been a hero and how many villains has he beaten, some probably far worse than these guys? Deku is treating All-Might like some geriatric who has no business being on the field anymore, especially now that the mighty Deku has entered the stage. He thinks he knows all about All-Might already and since he's one of the few people who know the big secret, he feels he's all the more entitled to decide what's good for All-Might and what's not, how All-Might should live the rest of his life and what kind of things to avoid.
He's totally looking down on All-Might, albeit without any malice. But some of the worst deeds in the history of mankind have been done with the best of intentions.
But wouldn't All Might be dead already if it weren't for Ice dude?
I think Izuku's concerns are real too.
Peace.
The Ice dude and Kacchan weren't there to help All Might. They were there to kick villain ass and to prevent All Might from hogging all the glory. It's just a happy coincidence they actually did save him, perhaps. I wouldn't actually badmouth Deku at all if that had been his attitude as well. It just annoys me he ran there thinking All Might surely can't pull it off without his n00b assistance.
I don't think he thinks that highly of himself. There was just no one else there to help All Might, at least, he didn't think so. That doesn't change the fact that All Might needed help, and that Izuku was right.
Peace.
Yeah, my lines referring to Deku's prowess were sarcastic. He doesn't think highly of himself, but he instead thinks little of All Might's might. It's like he worships All Might's shadow, but doesn't ever want All Might to do the only thing the man wants to do, in fear of his greatest, undefeated hero of justice actually not being able to pull through. That's remarkable lack of faith resulting in hypocrisy. He believes in All Might's message but not the man behind the message.
But then again, I guess that goes along well with the personality of a bullied person with little self-confidence.
Episode 13 Final - HS
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Quite a good last episode (of the first season). This battle and arc was wrapped up sufficiently and things to come foreshadowed. Nice Person being worried about Deku enough to wait for him was a nice touch, even if the class president was there c-blocking as well, but Deku being so oblivious anyway, it's not going to matter much.
I got just a single complaint about this episode and it was how the Hand man tried to block Deku. Considering Deku is as fast as All Might when powered up, there's no way the Hand man could have attacked Deku first even under those circumstances. Deku would have simply needed to shift his target from the more distant Warper to the hand being offered right in front of him. Using the full power, as he was about to, there wouldn't be even molecules left of the hand, just loose atoms. I'd say that would have slowed down the villain quite significantly. So, in reality Deku wasn't in any danger even if he had lost his original target and had to be content with the secondary one.
Delightful ending. Here's to the second season.
@Kraco - You forget something about your handyman comment. Stamina.
The best part of this show was the music. It always manages to get my blood pumping at exactly the right moments. Without it, this would've been just a little above average as far as shows go.
Peace.
Just watched the final 4 episodes of this first season. Solid shounen series that for sure, something that's been seemingly lacking for me in the past years other than Nanatsu. Looking forward to the next season, and the seeming villain at the after credit scenes looks like it'll be badass.
I hope Izuku kicks some ass in the next season. I'm not a fan of weak ass good hearted protagonists.
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