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    Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari

    Introduction/Pre-air episode is out

    From ANN:

    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...e.php?id=19826

    Plot Summary:Naofumi Iwatani, an uncharismatic otaku who spends his days on games and manga, suddenly finds himself summoned to a parallel universe. He discovers he is one of four heroes equipped with legendary weapons and tasked with saving the world from its prophesied destruction. As the Shield Hero, the weakest of the heroes, all is not as it seems. Naofumi is soon alone, penniless, and betrayed. With no one to turn to, and nowhere to run, he is left with only his shield. Now, Naofumi must rise to become the legendary Shield Hero and save the world. (from manga)




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    Well, slow paced for a manga reader waiting for more.
    But the best parts are for next ep... no spoilers

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    where to get it from? or will they air the same episode again when it's released for real?

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    [!?- Mizore] Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari - 01 (Preair).mkv

    There are two other options, but the hdr version is awful and the other one is only 44kb... probably a virus

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    Episode 1 available at HorribleSubs.
    It's the same as the preAir one.

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    The punishment (death) for attempted rape in their kingdom is ridiculous, and the sheer lack of investigation is also insane. Since he was a VIP, they should've looked into it more instead of just one sidedly sentencing him. I mean, think about it. If he did plan to commit a crime and was foiled, why the heck would he be leisurely sleeping in the same room..?

    I'd get it if it was some random civilian who was being accused, but if he is so vital to the future of the world, he shouldn't get such nonsensical treatment, even if it's a princess accusing him. After all, it's a world of magic. It's certainly possible he was mind controlled, or the princess was mind controlled, or that one of them is a fake, or a hundred other possibilities aside from "he is just that depraved and dumb."
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    The series has some major plot holes, but I was/am still willing to forgive it and shut my brain off just a bit. They are actually exploring a mechanic where the protagonist has no offensive abilities of his own, and has already become a pariah so his last resort is buying a slave. So that, at least, is something new. Its rare to see fiction in any medium where the protagonist isn't just an anti-hero, but actually acts like a villain. But not moustache twirling over the top evil for evil's sake like Overlord.

    (It's obvious he won't be one forever, but it'll be nice while it lasts.)

    That and the animation is actually pretty well done.

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    I still really like this show because I love revenge stories and underdog stories. I'm just pissed they didn't handle the rape accusation thing better.
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    Yay, I enjoyed it, just like I hoped I would. In my opinion this show has some issue with sounds and inner monologues- or at least "I" have an issue with it. It sounded like it was a cinema rip of some sort during a few moments.

    But that's just something I found a little "weird".



    Anichart states that the first episode will air in 3 days.. I wonder if it'll re-air this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I still really like this show because I love revenge stories and underdog stories. I'm just pissed they didn't handle the rape accusation thing better.
    Maybe the anime didn't handle the hints well enough, but from a few things, as early as the king completely ignoring Naofumi and Naofumi being told the Shield Hero is the dud hero, you are already supposed to understand the country sees no value in the Shield Hero. It's not just the bitch who betrayed him. It's more or less everybody around. Thus there's absolutely nobody who would want to investigate anything. It was highly convenient for them they could throw him away based on these hollow charges. It's not like the rumours would have spread so fast and wide if the government hadn't wanted it. Thus, the rape accusation was handled just fine. It was like being accused of a crime in Russia: The moment you are accused is the moment you are found guilty. Everything after that is just theater with a predetermined outcome.

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    Well I guess the king's reaction is understandable because an investigation could turn out very bad for him since the only other outcome aside from guilty would be the princess lying. I'm surprised everyone else, especially people from Japan, turned on him so easily though. Normally you'd think they'd demand due process at least.

    Another thing I don't understand is the accuser's reasoning. If she just wanted his coins, she could've stolen them and pretended none the wiser, then just leave Naofumi at a later date, with him still thinking some third party did the stealing. He certainly seemed gullible enough for that. She didn't have to pretend to be assaulted and ruin the guy's life because that doesn't benefit her at all and carries much more risk, like revenge.
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    I disagree Kraco. The anime is not subtle, it is blatant. There are hints throughout the episode about Myne and what she was planning on doing.

    He messed up her plan by not drinking the wine that was 100% drugged. But she executed the plan anyway. I'm honestly surprised he didn't notice what she was up to when she was laying it on so damn thick at dinner.

    He woke up sober, and he woke up early. He probably was supposed to get caught in the room with all the planted evidence by the guards, doubting even himself.

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    Psst...shinta...it's hinted visually, but not stated. Myne is an adventurer, just like the king said.

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    Ryll, do you mean the guards or even the king is in on the plan? I thought it was just Myne's doing, but they just didn't give a shit about Naofumi so it ended up that way.

    And can you clarify how Myne being an adventurer is related?
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    Someone in the government is in on the plan. That's for sure. The extra coins for Naofumi, most of which got spent, the guards being at the inn in full force, the guards finding evidence that clearly was not there.

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    Now that you mention it, that makes sense. The princess should have a lot of power and influence after all. But what could be her motive? If she could move that much people or is in league with someone who can, Naofumi's coins can't be her main goal. That'd just be stupid.
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    Well, I tried to cover it, but the hints are there anyway at the 5:31 mark.

    Because she's a sadist, and wanted to get all her high-quality adventuring equipment for free (and not from Motoyasu's funds, or her own), while not looking to the other three heroes like she is an evil sadist.

    She's laying it on so fucking thick because she enjoys being a sadistic bitch, and Naofumi is a dumbass for not seeing it.

    Framing Naofumi is clearly a game to her. Hence the tongue and eye face.

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    So the kingdom is supporting such a shallow bitch.

    They really deserve to be destroyed by Naofumi then, assuming that's what he ends up doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I'm surprised everyone else, especially people from Japan, turned on him so easily though. Normally you'd think they'd demand due process at least.
    Well, Naofumi found out they are all from alternative worlds. So Japan in each world will have differences.
    But even IRL, justice in Japan can be manipulated by powerful people, we have a clear example happening right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Well I guess the king's reaction is understandable because an investigation could turn out very bad for him since the only other outcome aside from guilty would be the princess lying. I'm surprised everyone else, especially people from Japan, turned on him so easily though. Normally you'd think they'd demand due process at least.

    Another thing I don't understand is the accuser's reasoning. If she just wanted his coins, she could've stolen them and pretended none the wiser, then just leave Naofumi at a later date, with him still thinking some third party did the stealing. He certainly seemed gullible enough for that. She didn't have to pretend to be assaulted and ruin the guy's life because that doesn't benefit her at all and carries much more risk, like revenge.
    The other three were familiar with the game setting, and the Shield Hero was a character only losers would play in the game, apparently. I have no doubt they thought fighting without the Shield Hero would be safer than having him in the mix. Since they were also so eager to ask for compensation and good terms for themselves, it's reasonable to think they would demand the Shield Hero's share as well from now on. In fact the Spear dude already got some of it.

    The bitch needed this for practical purposes to exit the Shield Hero's team quickly, with a good justification, keeping the stolen loot as well. When Naofumi was accused of an attempted rape, nobody would pay attention to some petty theft. Furthermore, she also made herself the victim, gaining sympathy, even if smarter people would have seen through her. She doesn't want to belong to the useless Shield Hero's team a single day longer than necessary. None of them would, as was seen when the adventurers got to choose their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    So the kingdom is supporting such a shallow bitch.

    They really deserve to be destroyed by Naofumi then, assuming that's what he ends up doing.
    Not *necessarily* related, but the kingdom is a matriarchy, yet the heroes were greeted by the king and the other chair in the throne-room was empty. I found that detail somewhat interesting and certainly wouldn't have noticed it if it weren't for that scene in the inn.

    In a matriarchy, the king doesn't rule, a princess would inherit first.

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    That cloaked figure might be working for the queen though. Maybe the Queen is more of a behind the scenes kind of gal.

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