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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Okay, so I got bored one day and decided to watch this show because it's popular on Crunchyroll and the thread for it here is huge.

    Watched the entire thing over a few day and...why the fuck are you guys talking about this so much? I'm not seeing anything special or particularly interesting about this series.
    It's an isekai, basically 💁🙈

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    Yeah but, like, this thread has half as many replies as Attack on Titan, which is a phenomenon. With, like, a 3rd of the episodes. Wtf have you people been talking about?
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    Because fake rape.
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    Anyway, a few of the thoughts I had while watching.

    1. Not being able to wield any weapon but a shield doesn't seem like a huge limitation in a world that's shows to have both offensive magic, and martial arts. Why the hell hasn't he specced into wizard or monk already?

    2. How the fuck does the class upgrade system work? I waited forever for them to finally get class upgrades and to find out what their new classes were, and then everyone was like, "we weren't able to get the upgrades we wanted". Okay, fine, so what upgrades DID you get? What fucking classes are you now?

    3. Buy more slaves guy! The first one worked out so well!

    4. I'm getting REALLY sick and fucking tired of characters telling the hero "I'll explain everything to you." and then explaining fucking nothing. Like when the queen says she's gonna tell him why the King hates the Shield Hero, and then does explain it AT ALL. Or just in this most recent episode where Scythe guy is like "I'll explain to you why you have to die." And then doesn't tell them jack shit.

    5. Okay, so I get wanting to make your protagonist merciful and sparing the villains from execution. But his replacement punishment is so fucking stupid. Embarrassing names? That's your step down from being executed?! How about exile. Or at least imprisonment! Whatever your more merciful punishment is, it should at least be able to prevent them from continuing to commit crimes against you. As evidenced by the fact that what-her-face IMMEDIATELY TRIES TO KILL YOU AGAIN TWO EPISODES LATER!!

    6. I realize Isekai shows are often also harem shows, but it's bothersome that his harem is all lolis.

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    Because fake rape.
    Of course.

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    Why is it "bothersome" that his harem is all lolis, which it isn't because Raphtalia is adult sized?

    Did you mean problematic?
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    7. It started out only the Spear Hero was an idiot. But ever since Naofumi cleared his name, the other two suddenly got way stupider.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Why is it "bothersome" that his harem is all lolis, which it isn't because Raphtalia is adult sized?

    Did you mean problematic?
    I mean "nothing here for me".

    And Raph is still like a 10-year-old girl. Just in a magically older body. It's the reverse of the "actually 1000-years-old" trope, but is arguably the creepier of the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    And Raph is still like a 10-year-old girl. Just in a magically older body. It's the reverse of the "actually 1000-years-old" trope, but is arguably the creepier of the two.
    She is an adult. She's not human. It's been explained her kind grows up as they level up. Humans take a particularly long time to grow up, but it doesn't mean all the other creatures need to do the same. Her body is young adult and her behavior is young adult. In fact she behaves more maturely than Naofumi much of the time (which doesn't take a miracle with Naofumi being a semi-edgelord, but anyway).

    It's not wholly relevant, but if humans in the future colonise Mars, a 10 years old Martian would be around 18 on Earth. How would you deal with that?

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    A person on mars though doesn't suddenly go from being a little girl, to being a young adult instantly(also pretty sure humans on Mars would continue to use the Earth calendar ).

    Yeah, she physically ages instantly, because magic. But did she also mentally age instantly? Or is that just the way a little kid that's suffered the kind of horrifying trauma that she has acts?

    Personally, I'd be uncomfortable lusting after someone that was a little girl last week because some magic nonsense is giving me the green light.

    It doesn't help that she's his slave. I realize she willingly requested to become his slave again, and the anime tries to pass that off as sweet, but in reality that would be a huge red flag that she's suffering from some serious mental issues.


    MFauli actually mentioned earlier in the thread about what a Black person would think about that scene, and I agree with him.

    "Well, I was freed from my slave master, but they were actually pretty nice to me. So as a symbolic gesture, I'd like you to put my shackles back on and give me a few lashes for old time's sake."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    A person on mars though doesn't suddenly go from being a little girl, to being a young adult instantly.
    When it happens instantly, shouldn't it remove any shackles of logic? I only mentioned Mars because looking at numbers alone doesn't mean anything. It's possible Raph doesn't get any more mature than this before starting to suffer from old age (we don't even know how long her kind lives, maybe it's only a few decades?).

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Personally, I'd be uncomfortable lusting after someone that was a little girl last week because some magic nonsense is giving me the green light.
    Then you share the same opinion with Naofumi himself who still considers her a kid and doesn't feel any lust toward her. This causes much annoyance to Raphtalia herself as she would like to get closer to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    It doesn't help that she's his slave. I realize she willingly requested to become his slave again, and the anime tries to pass that off as sweet, but in reality that would be a huge red flag that she's suffering from some serious mental issues.
    I don't quite understand the Japanese obsession with slaves, so I don't have much to say about that. It's like the Japanese feel they didn't yet get their full share of slave ownership during their occupation of Korea and parts of China. Half of isekai series have people, usually women, willingly becoming slaves or at least having no objections whatsoever. It's quite disturbing. However, at the same time it means the whole slavery thing in most isekai (including this one), can't bear any objective evaluation whatsoever.

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    I think it's less about slavery and more about having a pseudo-reasonable excuse for submissive behavior. You know, how women in Japanese porn cry and stuff. Submission (and often humiliation) are popular fetishes, and slavery allows for a somewhat sound explanation of submissive behavior - it'd feel totally out of place if Raphtalia just came out of nowhere and *chose* to obey someone else (although this anime absolutely didn't hold up quality-wise to actually need such explanation ...).

    An example for how featuring submissiveness comes off like when you don't have a proper explanation is Konosuba's Darkness: it can only be comedy.

    Personally, I don't like the insertion of sexual fetishes into the main plot, it jyst makes it all feel cheap. And that's big part of why no fantasy anime of the past 10 years has come close to the quality of Record of Lodoss War.

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    Because Raphtalia for me... And the manga was enjoyable.

    Edit: seems I answered a message that's gone... about why so many messages about a bland anime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Edit: seems I answered a message that's gone... about why so many messages about a bland anime...
    It's not gone. It's just on the previous page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Personally, I'd be uncomfortable lusting after someone that was a little girl last week because some magic nonsense is giving me the green light.


    @DEX: I read the manga after a few of the earlier episodes. It's quite a bit better than the anime. I can't comment on the novel version. But that's why I can still watch.

    Also: Filo.

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    I don't understand you guys. Loli harem is best harem. They are 2D characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    It's not gone. It's just on the previous page.
    I was too lazy to go check and feared I had to acknowledge Alzheimer is striking

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    Finale
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    So, did they kiss?


    Anyway, glad it's over.
    "Let's continue the fight another day" - why? One side was clearly disadvantagous, why not kill them NOW?!

    Also making light of suicide. But hey, 'funny' :/

    And finally: returning to the real world and showing real growth? Lulz! Naofumi was never a total loser neet outcast, it makes no sense for him to give the real workd.

    Ine of the worst cases of 'wasted potential'. Started out good, then turned into Boruto.

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    I thought the soundtrack pulled double duty today, and really enhanced the mood both during the battle's climax and the 'ever after' montage.

    Fair series. I'm surprised at where we are not, story wise, since the entire first few episodes made it seem his entire heroic journey would center on clearing his name... which he did, but then the story continued...

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    A pile of wasted potential. Aka, coal. And vegans.
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    I was wondering why boat girl was getting so much screentime.

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    Naofumi and Raphtalia should just get married.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    So, did they kiss?
    They didn't. Just a hug.

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