Those other heroes deserve a beating, especially the spear dude. The princess deserves to be raped then killed.
Those other heroes deserve a beating, especially the spear dude. The princess deserves to be raped then killed.
Peace.
Seriously, she deserves to be Goblin'd. Although I should praise the anime, because despite everyone thinking Naofumi is a rapist, they treat him not sooo badly. Progress.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
The merchants treated him badly before he threatened them with the balloon monsters, aside from the blacksmith dude whom he simply won over. The other heroes actually know he didn't really rape, or attempt to rape, anyone; they aren't stupid. So, they are just maintaining the setting they committed to. Other than that, he's still one of the heroes, no matter if the Shield Hero is shunned by the nation, so they can't actually get rid of him totally.
I'm not sure that the other Heroes really do believe that Naofumi is innocent. The imperial guards' investigation was about as good as expected from Japanese police, which is seemingly enough to satisfy the general Japanese.
I agree regarding the timeframe argument. Raphtallia's growth should have been over a month or something, not one week.
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
The whole case looked extremely phony, especially with the spear dude wearing Naofumi's armour and the bitch sticking to him. They would need to be idiots not to see through it. However, it's convenient for them to believe in the accusations, so they could perhaps convince themselves.
Well, but no one even knew it was Naofumi's armor.
All they saw was a girl that was scared of Naofumi and the local police force accusing him of doing something. And since they have no reason to not believe them since they are heroes and saviours... who and why would they accuse him of something that didn't happen.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Thu, 01-24-2019 at 05:11 PM.
Yeah, and Naofumi is a hero as well, so why would they believe he's a criminal? Those four are basically the outsiders. However, they knew from the beginning the Shield Hero is the odd one out. How convenient is it to accuse him immediately of something, to throw him to wolves to get his portion of the stipend as well? It's one of those cases where nothing makes sense, like why Naofumi would still have been there, robbed clean to boot, if he had attempted a rape, yet let the victim escape? Well, it's basically the same as the Japanese police: When a crime happens, they arrest the most obvious suspect, and then pressure a confession out of the poor bastard or if that doesn't work, the court of justice will figure something out. Just like Bill said earlier, so it makes sense Japanese authors wouldn't think anything is out of place in a scene like this.
Naofumi shouted it's his armour, so unless they have gone deaf, they would know.
Why wouldn't they???
It doesn't matter that they are heroes as well.
It matters that they believe, or are being told, that the inhabitants of that world honor the heroes.
If that's the case, they wouldn't accuse them of doing something that they didn't do.
For all they know, he's just some weird virgin who wants to abuse his new power to get women.
"yeah right...your armor, sure."Naofumi shouted it's his armour, so unless they have gone deaf, they would know.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 01-25-2019 at 12:03 PM.
Well, the bitch did say he "tried" to assault her while "drunk." This makes his crime much lighter because you don't even know if he wanted to rape her or just came on too strong to her due to inebriation. This also makes it more believable that he stayed around (fell asleep drunk) after the act, then forgot all about it.
Maybe that's why the other heroes, excluding spear dood, are acting like dicks but don't outright attack him, instead opting for childish snide remarks. In their eyes, he is a dick that got a little too horny, not a serial rapist.
Peace.
He's supposed to be the odd one out. He doesn't even fit the profile of the other three. The book for Naofumi, and whatever else for the others, grabbed three gamers and Naofumi. He's more into LNs than games. The others are otaku too, but are more focused on playing MMOs solo.
The mix seems intentional. The problem is the place they are summoned into expects them that way. A useless shield hero where the others are great fighters. That's suspicious as hell.
Contrasts heavily with the demi-human legends that have them cherishing the shield hero when the human nation shuns the shield hero.
It's quite an interesting take on it that the summoning ritual itself would force the Shield Hero to be different, as opposed to the past Shield Heroes simply having been annoying for the human kingdom. Although that being said, the world is somehow connected to the games and the LN, which meant the other dudes knew being the Shield Hero is to draw the short stick, so there's a fundamental reason for the Shield Hero being troublesome in the deepest background of the setting. So, whether the Shield Heroes weren't worth it for the humans from the beginning or whether their ill luck simply drove them to do unwated things, is the open question. If humans look down on you, wouldn't cooperate with you, and even try to get rid of you, it's quite natural you might then seek the company of the oppressed demi-humans, who, in turn, might look up to you. This, in turn, would make the humans even more annoyed.
Naofumi is a victim of both the initial setting of the Shield Hero being a difficult role to ace and the reality the humans of the kingdom consider the Shield Hero a waste of time and resources, due to their history with this whole summoning affair and maybe the deeds of the past Shield Heroes, which we don't really know, but which might have made the Shield Hero so despised.
So ... exactly like rape accusations in the real world then.
See Kavanaugh. See Neill Degrasse Tyson. No matter how little (read: noc evidence, stupid people will believe it, because they're stupid and/or have an agenda.
Eh... no way.I don't know about you, but if I was one of four people from another world summoned to a new world, I'd feel some sense of belonging together with the other three in a distinct group (not something like being friend or anything, but just as being an outsiders vs all the original inhabitants).
"We were treated like "gods".. obviously 1 of us was foul and the new power/status went to his head. Even the "police" says he did it and that dude forced himself on her just because she took pity on him and joined his group... disgusting, just because she is a nice person doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him.
He took advantage of their (and her) generosity - why would I want to side with him."
It's more than just plausible... especially since they think it is a game.
And they don't just "treat" them better, they literally hail them as superior beings and are cheering for them if they do as much as walk past them.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 01-25-2019 at 02:24 PM.
They also learned they each were singularly chosen from their particular world. All different versions of Japan, each with different developments socially and technologically.
Kinda throws camaraderie out the window when you learn that the one from one of the worlds, "tried to rape a woman." Was he lying about his version of Japan? Are they all scumbags on that world? Maybe Naofumi totally lied about himself?
They're all otaku though.
Look at the way Motoyasu (spear guy) treated Raphtalia the first time they met. Every girl is a virgin to him. His entire party is women.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Fri, 01-25-2019 at 05:01 PM.
Episode 04
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Alriiiiiiiiight, so:
Spear hero = dumb fuck.
Sword/Bow hero = clear in the head, but were lead to judge wrongly.
King/Princess = cunts, but we knew that.
Raphtalia = wife
Naofumi = with "curse" ability unlocked (hopefully), that would mean he'd be able to debuff anyone who attacks him.
It sucks that Shield Prison was taken down so early. Spear dude could literally do shit all in that enclosed space. It would have ended the duel without room for interference. (Technically I'd call that "pinning him down", not that the King would have acknowledged that).
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Tbh these people are unfair to a degree where it hurts the anime, because it's unrealistic that so many people would be so oblivious to the truth.
Not to defend this, but so many people IRL are also oblivious to many truths.
Peace.
I'm actually quite baffled by flat earthers, and to an extent anti-vaxxers.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
But even.flat earthers would admit the earth is a sphere if they could fly around it like Superman. These assholes in Tate would still deny it. It's unfair to a dumb, unbelievable degree.
And spear hero us the dumbest of all. How pathetic can you be ...
My opponent got thrown halfway across the stadium. Nothing sus. All me.The thing is, some people actually deny things that are happening right before their eyes IRL. It is actually in fiction where people behave generally smarter than normal. It's just that the audience gets annoyed by stupid actions because they expect better from characters in stories or the creator.
It was extremely obvious to me that the nobles chose to be oblivious.
Like, so obvious, that it was hardly necessary for them to actually point it out, yet they (Bow and Sword) even did that... so I'm not quite sure what you guys are saying right now?
There was absolutely nothing "unbelievable" (at least not in this context) about what happened because this is basically just them bullying/harassing/mobbing him.
The only dudes who did not go for this crap were the Sword and Bow... obviously because they don't have to fear the king or anyone in general... and are less fanatic about the whole thing in the first place. The audience was basically "the king and his puppets/clique"... not some righteous noblemen that would stand up for the weak and ugly. Even if some of them would actually stand up for the Shield, they would do so in secret to not lose power/wealth/connections/whatever. Considering how that country views the shield hero however, it's doubtful that they'll even care.
It's far more likely that they would not consider this duel won by Naofumi, even if he would have won by normal standards.
So basically, it being "unfair" was exactly what has happened. That's what this "show" disguised as a "duel" was all about. The very basic setup, a spear vs shield, is unwinable for the shield from the start, he has no offensive power - the best he could hope for with no cheats would be a draw.
So.... the spear is @ 43... Naofumi is at 21(?) poor guy. Impressive defense stats when he can hold up against a 20+ lvl difference though!
Last edited by KrayZ33; Wed, 01-30-2019 at 02:27 PM.
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