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    My opponent got thrown halfway across the stadium. Nothing sus. All me.

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    The thing is, some people actually deny things that are happening right before their eyes IRL. It is actually in fiction where people behave generally smarter than normal. It's just that the audience gets annoyed by stupid actions because they expect better from characters in stories or the creator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    But even.flat earthers would admit the earth is a sphere if they could fly around it like Superman. These assholes in Tate would still deny it. It's unfair to a dumb, unbelievable degree.

    And spear hero us the dumbest of all. How pathetic can you be ...
    My opponent got thrown halfway across the stadium. Nothing sus. All me.
    The thing is, some people actually deny things that are happening right before their eyes IRL. It is actually in fiction where people behave generally smarter than normal. It's just that the audience gets annoyed by stupid actions because they expect better from characters in stories or the creator.

    It was extremely obvious to me that the nobles chose to be oblivious.
    Like, so obvious, that it was hardly necessary for them to actually point it out, yet they (Bow and Sword) even did that... so I'm not quite sure what you guys are saying right now?

    There was absolutely nothing "unbelievable" (at least not in this context) about what happened because this is basically just them bullying/harassing/mobbing him.

    The only dudes who did not go for this crap were the Sword and Bow... obviously because they don't have to fear the king or anyone in general... and are less fanatic about the whole thing in the first place. The audience was basically "the king and his puppets/clique"... not some righteous noblemen that would stand up for the weak and ugly. Even if some of them would actually stand up for the Shield, they would do so in secret to not lose power/wealth/connections/whatever. Considering how that country views the shield hero however, it's doubtful that they'll even care.

    It's far more likely that they would not consider this duel won by Naofumi, even if he would have won by normal standards.

    So basically, it being "unfair" was exactly what has happened. That's what this "show" disguised as a "duel" was all about. The very basic setup, a spear vs shield, is unwinable for the shield from the start, he has no offensive power - the best he could hope for with no cheats would be a draw.



    So.... the spear is @ 43... Naofumi is at 21(?) poor guy. Impressive defense stats when he can hold up against a 20+ lvl difference though!
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    That's why they said Motoyasu lost. Naofumi is half his level and had him boxed in by one means or another almost the entire fight until Malty/Myne cheated. The first strike was all it took to know how it would go.

    The whole thing was bullshit. I read it before in the manga, knew this was coming, and it still made me angry. He was forced into a duel where the only outcome if he won was, "Carry on." If they guards and King hadn't forced him into it, Naofumi should have walked out of the city and never returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    So.... the spear is @ 43... Naofumi is at 21(?) poor guy. Impressive defense stats when he can hold up against a 20+ lvl difference though!
    I still play this one MMORPG called Priston Tale. There is a class called Mechanician and it's basically a tank class.

    Mind you, all classes can wear shields but not all can tank. The Mechanician class is a lot like Naofumi in that the defensive stats are off the charts and even the defensive skills make an already tank class even more of a tank. In PvP, their damage is not great but cause other classes can barely harm them aside from the lame pike class (Scythes and Spears), the Mechanician class just has to tank and take away the other player HP one attack at a time and eventually win.

    I am kind of seeing Naofumi as a Mechanician class lol.

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    "Don't force a slave into fighting!"

    "We shall force you into a duel!"

    WOT.
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    ->Shield hero is viewed as a lower class than a slave's.
    Great world...

    I wonder if past shield hero siding with demi-humans is the reason he's shuned that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krayz
    It was extremely obvious to me that the nobles chose to be oblivious.
    Like, so obvious, that it was hardly necessary for them to actually point it out, yet they (Bow and Sword) even did that... so I'm not quite sure what you guys are saying right now?

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    My opponent got thrown halfway across the stadium. Nothing sus. All me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buff is saying
    Spear hero = dumb fuck.
    That ^.

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    Although Sword and Bow did allow Naofumi to be throw to the wolves once, they ought to still possess a lingering doubt about the wisdom of allowing one of only four heroes in the world to be treated like shit. It's still four vs the whole world if it comes down to it. In other words, if Naofumi being a hero means nothing, then what guarantee is there that the world wouldn't get tired of the bow or sword as well, should something happen beyond their power? Naofumi's case shows simply being a "hero" doesn't carry any sacred prestige.

    On the other hand they saw Naofumi could kick the Spear Hero's ass, despite receiving zero support from the crown. That would make them wonder if it was smart to make an enemy out of Naofumi.

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    What is weird is the Hero's relative power levels. Right now it's as if they're a strong warrior, but not some OP literal hero. Naofumi had no choice by to obey the guards. On the other hand, my Skyrim character just massacred the Imperial city guards for being dicks towards me.

    Like, on one hand good on the country for summoning the heroes so that they can level up before waves get nasty, but the first episode made it sound as if the country got absolutely nailed by the first wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    What is weird is the Hero's relative power levels. Right now it's as if they're a strong warrior, but not some OP literal hero. Naofumi had no choice by to obey the guards. On the other hand, my Skyrim character just massacred the Imperial city guards for being dicks towards me.
    It would have done him no good to fight the guards, regardless of his ability. He's shunned as it is due to the false rape charge, so fighting the law enforcement openly would only make his situation worse. He might even be banned from entering the city, which would prevent him from selling his loot and buying gear from the understanding blacksmith.

    His mistake was to stick around in the first place. He should have only collected the reward, surprising enough they even decided to give him any, and then immediately hit the road. Staying there was only asking for trouble, and trouble he got.

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    I just hope he gets revenge at dome point and doesnt become another good guy-Kirito. I want the spear guy and princess to suffer and be humiliated in the worst possible way. Death by goblins or so. Would be infuriating if he just led it all slide what they did.

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    He stuck around so Raphtalia gets to eat whatever she wants.

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    I found it hilarious that Naofumi and Raphtalia basically acted out a family drama in front of a literal audience and the King LOL. A playwright watching will probably turn this into a play and make money off it.
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    Any clue what happened or sidekick girl said to make Naofumi call her a traitor? The unfairness of the duel was an intentional annoyance, but his breakdown and rejection of her when she went almost straight to him was equally aggravating to watch.

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    He had this mental breakdown scene where Raphtalia left him. That was why he called her a traitor.
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    After reading some reddit threads from the previous episodes, it's clear that the anime left out some rather crucial elements in helping the audience understand his perspective during all this. I'd recommend reading those anime episode discussion threads for anyone interested. I doubt they'd play a difference now.

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    It's kind of key that Naofumi always viewed Raphtalia as a child even after she leveled and physically matured, and that he could never taste food after being betrayed until now.

    Naofumi has been mentally fucked up since he got accused by Malty, and even a little bit before that, when they ignored him while hailing the other three.

    And now he is not.

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    That tasting food part made me cry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    That tasting food part made me cry...
    I must say, that's actually served him quite well. Money well saved by being able to tolerate the cheapest lunch of the day every day.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    It's kind of key that Naofumi always viewed Raphtalia as a child even after she leveled and physically matured, and that he could never taste food after being betrayed until now.
    All they needed were a few first-person-perspective shots right before things got messy to establish that fact. I didn't think the "subtle" hinting worked in the anime at all (namely, a single line about how the town's full of lolicons).

    It sounds like the anime made Naofumi way too normal and caring after meeting Raphtalia.

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