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    I loved how Filo's glutony had Raphtalia and Naofumi fear she gobbled Melty
    It was not entirely false though, that Melty was inside Filo

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    They totally missed the perfect joke there though. When they asked where Melty was, Filo should've pointed at her body and said "In here! <3" Naofumi orzing would've capped it off perfectly.

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    Yup, they missed a great opportunity

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    They totally missed the perfect joke there though. When they asked where Melty was, Filo should've pointed at her body and said "In here! <3" Naofumi orzing would've capped it off perfectly.
    Haha, indeed. That would have been great.

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    Ep 10


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    It's quite plausible that if some random modern people got isekaied and suddenly granted great powers, they would easily cause problems even without meaning to. Especially because they wouldn't really understand how the society works. Not to mention in the distant past, common people generally speaking lived far more miserable lives than the common people of our times in the developed countries. There's simply nothing one could do to change that with the resources available. Of course magic, potentially, could compensate somewhat, but typically not so hugely, plus where there's magic, there are also all kinds of monsters. Evildoers would also be able to wield the magic. All in all it's just like has always been said: Don't try to save people if you have no idea what's going to happen afterwards. That's something exceedingly few games would pay any attention to.

    Naofumi had a stylish way of handling those soldiers wanting to join his gang. It really tested whether they were only acting on a whim or were ready to stomach unknown, annoying things. I still think there was nothing wrong about the way he treated Melty's case. The princess can prove herself first if she wants to be heard and taken seriously. In the meantime Naofumi is still under an intense oppression by Melty's family, like the church scene once again showed. If Melty couldn't even fix that before trying to discuss things with Naofumi, what on Earth could she even have to say?

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    Most important issue: So is Naofumi another gay hero or why won't he accept Raphtalia's advances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Most important issue: So is Naofumi another gay hero or why won't he accept Raphtalia's advances?
    She looked like 10 years old just a couple of months earlier. It might be hard for him to readjust his image of her as a little kid. On the other hand, if he dreams of returning back to his original world as soon as possible, maybe he'd prefer to not have romantic relationships holding him back in this sucky new world.

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    It doesn't seem like he was interested or had a relationship before he was transferred to this world.
    His hatred is stronger for the moment, it's not like his mind is available for love or relations relying strongly on trust.
    It's entirely possible he sees himself as a father figure for Raphtalia and Filo, for age reasons and also because he's like a family support at the moment.

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    Guess I'm the only Woody Allen-supporter here then

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    Firo's cockblocking right now anyway.

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    Hilarious how she is literally a cock (ok not literally because she is female) doing the blocking.

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    I still feel he could have handled Melty better. I get it, he don't trust that family and they have done him harm. They also have helped him (masked squad, though he could be forgiven for not deducing that). She introduced herself honestly once they had reached their destination, and acted surprised when she heard he was the shield hero. That itself should suggest their time on the road was indicative of her true character. Naofumi has the edgy anti-hero persona on full-cowling now to protect himself; I get it. I just don't believe in burning bridges that I've only half crossed. Cards are on the table, she doesn't praise her sister's behavior; why not hear her out? You're not above asking a slave trader for advice when a royal decree prevents you from using 'public utilities'... but won't ask Melty to have that reversed (or work on it) as an act of good faith when the wave is incoming? Two birds, one stone. Oh well, I like my characters flawed anyway.

    I really didn't expect, between the two of them, that the Bow hero would be the only "I did nothing wrong" holdout when confronted about his Robin-Hoodery. The Sword hero (the one that struck me as the most self-righteous self-insert parody of them all) seemed pretty shaken and concerned about the trouble he supposedly caused, which makes me re-evaluate both of their characters, actually.

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    Well her dear sister also came to him acting all nice only to stab him in the back. The King has been nothing but against him from the start. He just thinks it's some kind of ploy to get him to drop his guard only to betray him once more.

    But yeah it seems that the Sword Hero is the only one who can actually think about the potential consequences when confronted bout it. Let's not talk about the idiot that is the Spear Hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Well her dear sister also came to him acting all nice only to stab him in the back. The King has been nothing but against him from the start. He just thinks it's some kind of ploy to get him to drop his guard only to betray him once more.
    This. Sure family members can be totally different people, but more often than not, especially if they belong to archaic royal and noble lineages, they are of the same stock, even if from different alliances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Well her dear sister also came to him acting all nice only to stab him in the back. The King has been nothing but against him from the start. He just thinks it's some kind of ploy to get him to drop his guard only to betray him once more.

    But yeah it seems that the Sword Hero is the only one who can actually think about the potential consequences when confronted bout it. Let's not talk about the idiot that is the Spear Hero.
    I think the sword hero (Ren ?) was the first to defend Naofumi against the King...
    Seems he has some kind of brain and sense of justice, eventhough he didn't use them when Naofumi was fooled the very first time.

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    I guess he didn't have any info to judge Naofumi as innocent back then. Now Naofumi is showing his true character through his deeds.

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    Reflecting on it some more, I was assuming that his first trauma was entirely enabled by his optimistic trusting of princess combo-ed into a backstab. My thinking was that, if he has been convicted of the 'worst offense in the realm' and wasn't executed or imprisoned because he was a hero, that kind of implied carte blanche, no? That trick (episode 1) could only be done once now that the cat's out of the bag, right?

    In reality, his trust only resulted in him getting swindled out of his money. The rape accusation itself was levied irrespective of their circumstance, given how within her power having fictitious evidence planted was; so I don't think their relationship factored into the accusation itself insomuch as the mysterious general distain for the concept of the shield hero. What I'm saying is: yeah, just being around a royal could be a misplay given just how unsubstantiated accusations can hold water in this world with just a little twisting.

    It makes more sense to me now for Naofumi to want to stay away from loli princess, but I still see it as a poor decision to coldly push away a potential ally. As Kratos once said to the boy about some annoying dwarves... "You gain nothing my making an enemy of them".

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    I don't feel like you are paying enough attention to the psychological factors. Whereas the other heroes got huge support from the kingdom, Naofumi was kicked out disgraced and penniless. He had to survive in the hostile world relying only on himself, yet he wasn't even able to attack the monsters he had to defeat to make any advance based on his scarce knowledge and guesses. Somehow he struggled on, relying on nothing but his own deeds (saving and "using" Raphtalia can also be counted as his own achievement). After the wave he decided to risk trusting the kingdom just a little bit to receive his reward, but instead he was again kicked in the nuts by the royal family and cohorts. In all this his bitterness and hatred were the powers that allowed him to survive and still do. He hasn't got any goodwill left to spare to the royal family. He balances the negativity in his personality by helping the common people out there, as long as he doesn't need to feel used. After all, those common people are also suffering.

    In these times of enforced political correctness the power of hate is often ignored, but it can be a powerful driving force. He can't simply suddenly abandon something that allowed him to stay alive. Melty can prove herself first. She hasn't done anything so far.

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    Remember, from our POV, we know Melty is on the side of the queen, who seems to be a decent person at least. Naofumi has no idea about that, and with his history with the royal family members, it was the logical decision to remove the glaring and huge risk named Melty.

    Also, he didn't do anything bad to Melty. He just told her he doesn't want to listen to whatever she might say and to go away. He didn't insult her or attack her. He just didn't want to deal with more conniving royals. I think the fact that Melty is a cute loli is making the scene seem worse than it actually is. If some burly old man or humorous anime gay oniisan was in her shoes, people would be like, "who cares."

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    The biggest thing here is that Melty told him "her father will give him a reward"
    He already knows that there is nothing to gain from that. If the kings doesn't have anything to do with her, she wouldn't have said it.

    So in his eyes, they are obviously on good terms and that also means she is part of the problem.

    So why wouldn't he drop her.

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