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    3700 years is enough to build a large population.
    Also, they had the knowledge technology/science exists. So it's a bit hard to swallow they didn't start to rebuild some of that from the very start. The ones coming back to earth are astronauts for God sake. They are among the better minds, super trained, able to perform many tasks to completion. They have two docs, a former teacher and scientists and they are not able to build/start something the first 10/20 years ? Not even able to pass that knowledge to the first children ?

    As for the beam: good luck managing several billion people waking up naked in the middle of nowhere, when over 50% of them are city animals and do not know the first thing about survival.
    You really need to do it at a manageable pace, by building everything you need slowly. Bonus: stone people can wait a very long time if they are not broken, so you have time to bring them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    2) The village is guarded, specifically from outsiders. 3500 years and there's only ONE village of about 50 people? I don't buy it. There are other people out there.
    They made a point to have the Russian couple leave the island first, and never return. So they COULD have had more kids elsewhere. Though that community would just be even MORE inbred...

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    You really need to do it at a manageable pace, by building everything you need slowly. Bonus: stone people can wait a very long time if they are not broken, so you have time to bring them back.
    Not to mention, bringing back civilization all at once with a reverse beam kind undermines the entire theme of having to rebuild civilization from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    1) How the hell do you get some of the resources Senku is going to need?
    2) The village is guarded, specifically from outsiders. 3500 years and there's only ONE village of about 50 people? I don't buy it. There are other people out there.
    Was the death of those 2 who went with a boat hard-confirmed or did they just assume they're dead because they never returned? If so, there's your source for another village - a more incest-y village ;i

    Edit: oh, there was a new page 🙈

    Btw just realistically speaking, don't you need like 28 people minimum to have a sustainable/growing population? I think I've heard that somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Btw just realistically speaking, don't you need like 28 people minimum to have a sustainable/growing population? I think I've heard that somewhere.
    I've heard like 4000 if you want to avoid the effects of inbreeding.

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    Back to our astronauts:
    -Why the hell would you send your only two docs on a quest for medication ? Send one of them with someone else more suited with nav or other strenghts.
    -stonification stopped Humanity, but technology is still there everywhere ! Ok, a large portion of it is quickly disabled because of high maintenance needs. But you have thousands of motor tools/cars with full tanks of gasoline that will start in less than a minute even 2 or 4 years after stonification. Many cars are fairly easy to open and start even without keys.
    Ok they are on an island with no tech, tough luck. But you have months/years to find ways to go to a better area.
    Then you can use everything that's available and you do not start with zero tech/knowledge and endup miserable like Ishigami Village.
    They had at least 10 to 20 years with astronauts: people trained to face challenges, find solutions, use technology, manage goals to completion.
    In that time frame they had a giganormous source of tech and resources to use and teach their children how to use them and keep knowledge and even improve it. Then 3700 years to arrive to Senku getting out of his stonification.

    I understand that Senku needs to start from stoneage to make a better story. But that backstory is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I understand that Senku needs to start from stoneage to make a better story. But that backstory is flawed.
    Agreed. They should have just been descended from other people that were freed the same way as Senku, too long after all signs of civilization decayed, and without Senku's knowledge of how to rebuild it from scratch.

    Not to mention the ridiculous coincidence of the only survivors including his dad, and him just happening upon his dad's descendants.

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    I'm glad i stopped caring about logic ever since Tsukasa killed a lion with bare hans ;o

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    It's kind of weird that the Priestess is forced to keep the origin story largely to themselves. So Daddy's gift is the story that they survived, noticed the beam came from South America, and they fucked hard to give him some much needed manpower.

    Funnily enough, they lost a lot of skill by the time it came to building Daddy Senku's tomestone...

    Most importantly, Senku isn't blood related to any of them so every girl is fair game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Most importantly, Senku isn't blood related to any of them so every girl is fair game.
    Kohaku definitely seemed worried for a minute when she thought they might be related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    -Why the hell would you send your only two docs on a quest for medication ? Send one of them with someone else more suited with nav or other strenghts.
    As a modern doctor, I can say that being in the wilderness without modern pathology labs, imaging equipment, medications or operating theatres makes a doctor pretty worthless. I can tell you that you probably have a particular illness based on physical history and examination, but any treatment aside from stabilisation of a fracture or "Keep patient warm, rehydrated and comfortable" would be fairly impossible. We don't know how to make drugs from plants and operating is near suicide.

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    In the context of what I wrote, I was thinking on a broader sense: do not loose both docs when we know plenty of tech is still available everywhere.
    But you are right in the anime context on a stranded island with no tech available hundreds of miles around... Modern docs are pretty much like race horses: useless outside of their field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Kohaku definitely seemed worried for a minute when she thought they might be related.
    Which made little sense, considering everybody in the village is more closely related to each other than Senku ever would.

    With only 3 couples originally, it's a village where cousins, nieces and uncles, nephews and aunts, and maybe even 'worse' had offspring with each other, it wouldn't have worked otherwise .

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    It makes sense that they didn't couple up but actually had the females breed with all the males.

    This show is so dumb.
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    I assumed both doctors left together in case one of them died. It was going to be a long rowboat trip to find antibiotics that hadn't expired, and were the right ones.

    Like Senku said with Ruri, it was a total gamble. If he made sulfa drugs and it was TB and not pneumonia, he would have killed her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    Like Senku said with Ruri, it was a total gamble. If he made sulfa drugs and it was TB and not pneumonia, he would have killed done nothing for her.
    Small, but important difference.

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    Yeah, I'm not a doctor, so I'm trusting what the show says.

    That said, how do you think the entire village would take it, including Chrome and Kohaku?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    But you are right in the anime context on a stranded island with no tech available hundreds of miles around...
    To be honest, they never should have set themselves up on an island to begin with.

    I mean, they made it TO that island to begin with, they should have been able to make it to the mainland if they'd all worked together, and they should have STARTED their lives there, instead of waiting for shit to get bad to try and make the trip.

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    Episode 18:

    I hate how the heroes aren't handing out lethal attacks. These enemies are attacking with the goal to kill them, so answering with deadly force is the only correct way - especially when you're the weaker one.

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    Well, Senku wants to save humanity.
    Tsukasa's scumbag detector is extremely efficient...

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    Yeah, I'm actually quite pleased that Tsukasa actually did acknowledge that "You didn't find a body. So you can't say for sure that he's dead."

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