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    Vivy -Fluorite Eye's Song-

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    NiaLand is an AI theme park that blends dreams with hope and science. Vivy was created as the world's first autonomous humanoid AI to work as a cast member in the theme park. She gets on stage every day to sing, but she is not very popular.
    "I want my singing to bring happiness to everyone."
    Vivy continues singing in hopes of achieving her goal of bringing her heartfelt performances to the theme park's main stage.

    One day, an AI that calls himself Matsumoto appears to her.

    Matsumoto claims that he is an AI from one hundred years in the future, and that his mission is to rewrite history with Vivy in order to stop the war between AI and humans that will happen a century later.

    How will the meeting of these two AIs with such different missions change the course of the future?

    This is a story of I(Vivi) destroying I(AI)...

    The one hundred-year journey of an AI songstress named Vivy starts now.


    Witness the unfolding of a sci-fi drama created by kindred spirits and masters of entertainment: WIT STUDIO, Tappei Nagatsuki, and Eiji Umehara.

    Episode 6 already. I know I'm too lazy to create a thread even on anime I like.
    But from Ghost in the Shell, Chobits, Plastic Memories to that show and many others, I remember being attracted to the concept of artificial intelligence and humanoid robots with conciousness and even feelings for quite a long time.

    These concepts are explored once more in a quite flashy and some action anime. But not as violent and battle god expert as gits, though there's still some robot graphic gore and fast action scene (I tend to dislike as I age).

    I felt from ep1 where doom might be coming from and last ep last scene probably goes that way, could be a red herring too as the season is still young though.

    I hope some of you have fun watching that show too.

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    So, if there's romance in the show, is it between the two AIs? Not between a human and an AI?

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    Grace has been loved. And it is possible that she had something more than her mission, because an AI could probably use words to manipulate someone into bliss while not lying and still just do their job... Like any human for that matter

    Diva was idolised or at least that girl was a great fan.

    That feels like not much, but I like these stories without really knowing why. Maybe because I can use my imagination in a different way.

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    Time for me to get caught up.

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    Episode 11

    I'm all caught up now.
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    Yeah...so this is the show of the season, hands down. One part Eve no Jikan, one part Violet Evergarden, a tablespoon of Your Name, and season with GitS:SAC to taste.

    And android idol premise with the action director of Attack on Titan, and damn do they pull it off.

    The fight scenes are incredible, and the story is pretty standard time travel disaster aversion stuff. It's nice that they failed anyway, even if the cause of the rampage ended up being a bit of a retread. But not in a bad way really. There was a nice slow build up across the series that something was working against them anyway, using the corrections that Vivy and Matsumoto pulled off to make similar progress elsewhere and realign the timeline towards the disaster, and ultimately even making Vivy the direct vehicle in the "revised" timeline. Vivy ended up creating a moderate faction of Toak instead, so she has allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Yeah...so this is the show of the season, hands down.
    I've only watched episode 1 but wanted to watch it when I have motivation for another series. THought about whether it's worth it to catch up, but that's quite the praise. Will definitely watch.

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    Just watched the first episode. This indeed looks like a quality story so far. Although I find it kind of unlikely Vivy's personality/behavior would be so developed right from the beginning if she's the first really autonomous humanoid AI. But then again, maybe the very much robot looking androids also do boast quite a developed AI, contrary to their looks, but there are just some libraries omitted. In the end, if technology allows making something like Vivy, it means already years earlier there would have been relatively developed sex bots. However, they would have their own kind of programming, as opposed to the theme park staff robots. Yet the theme park robots could be otherwise more versatile and productive than sex bots. Vivy might be a combination of the best of both technologies.

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    Without any spoilers for the new viewers:

    The story implied in the first episode that they tried to make more advanced neural net type androids, and they all failed spectacularly compared to Vivy. They had the technology before, but they all failed until humanity found the epiphany of giving androids a singular goal. One that thankfully doesn't have to be all that specific, but it is the single command at the core of each of them that keeps them stable.

    It's also likely that compared to her service-bot peers at the time, an exorbitant amount of money was put into Vivy when she was created that keeps her at parity with other androids produced decades and decades later until they reach a level of mass production on Vivy-type androids.

    Why Vivy was created the way she was does get revealed over time. You also see the other androids over decades catch up to her, starting with the Sisters that are based off of her in the 3rd episode.

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    episode 2:

    So small question:

    Does she look like a generic AI robot or does she look like the pretty girl? In the beginning of the episode when's with the guy she needs to protect, she's shown as the former first, then as the latter, but without any explanation given. Can she transform?

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    Matsumoto is hacking the assemblyman's augmented reality glasses to make Vivy appear as a generic service-bot through them. At this point, Vivy is pretty well known as the one of, if not the first autonomous AIs, plus she saved him in the park the day before. Her synthetic skin is the real her.

    You can see it in the full OP, and the introduction in the first episode. Vivy has an endoskeleton that would probably look very Terminator-like if she lost all her synthetic skin and hair, but she has synthetic blue muscle sacs/tissues, then covered by red sub-dermal material, and finally human looking skin. Her neck status thing and DLSR lens-like eyes give away that she's an AI.
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    I also watched the second ep. The police response time in that city is abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Matsumoto is hacking the assemblyman's augmented reality glasses to make Vivy appear as a generic service-bot through them. At this point, Vivy is pretty well known as the one of, if not the first autonomous AIs, plus she saved him in the park the day before. Her synthetic skin is the real her.

    You can see it in the full OP, and the introduction in the first episode. Vivy has an endoskeleton that would probably look very Terminator-like if she lost all her synthetic skin and hair, but she has synthetic blue muscle sacs/tissues, then covered by red sub-dermal material, and finally human looking skin. Her neck status thing and DLSR lens-like eyes give away that she's an AI.
    Oh, so the 2nd episode takes place after the first one? I thought that she had traveled back in time to change something.

    Also yes, lol, what Kraco said. I, too, was wondering just how long it takes for police to arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Oh, so the 2nd episode takes place after the first one? I thought that she had traveled back in time to change something.
    I suspect she can't travel in time. It was only Matsumoto, the snarky future AI, in data form, that did travel once. You actually rarely see in time travel stories just a conscious information entity being transferred in time, but now that I think about it, it's far more plausible (if you can use that word in any time travel context) than a physical being. Of course loose bits of data are more commonly transferred, such as messages. If you have to choose between a message and a gel banana, the message wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Oh, so the 2nd episode takes place after the first one? I thought that she had traveled back in time to change something.
    To date, they're all in chronological order. There are years or decades between the arcs via timeskips, typically episode pairs. One episode crosses decades within itself, but you'll be able to figure that one out.

    Vivy was chosen because she's the oldest fully autonomous AI still in existence when the AI revolt occurs 100 years later (because she also happened to be the first humanoid songstress android), thus the perfect subject to assist the data-only Matsumoto sent back in time via handwavery, and the doctor had some personal connection to Vivy sometime in his past. She was guaranteed to exist across all points where history might need to be altered.

    Matsumoto's data went back in time 100 years, Vivy just persists across that century span. That's why his hacking algorithms are so advanced for the time period.

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    Vivy - 13 END (spoiler free for now)

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    Like Granbelm a couple years ago, this is one of those sleeper titles that slips under the radar of most viewers as the season airs. Plot wise, it isn't something particularly revolutionary. It uses a template for the genre it is in, but executes that template extremely well. The music hits the right way in every place it is used, overall the soundtrack is stellar, the acting is spot on, and the visuals hit highs that only movies do, while averaging out their budget when they didn't need it so they can keep up the quality the whole way.

    If I had to list a negative for this series, it is simply that the first half is stronger. The second half is also very good, but it doesn't quite hit that high of the first three arcs.

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    Episode 13.5


    I don't want to wish there's another cour... as much as I'd like to know how Vivy lives in that new timeline and what became of her personality, I do not think they can make it bankable. So it will probably stop at that recap with a Matsumoto angle if I remember correctly. Because I don't like recaps... so I'm still pondering wether I watch it or not.
    I also wonder if we can get a little more on short hair Vivy who may just be a totally new AI inside the same frame, much like plastic memories...

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