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    The weird thing is that it seems like walking past does NOT fail you. We don't know if there are any demerit points aside from instant fail.

    But saving him while remaining dirty is an instant fail with seemingly no merit for saving at all.

    When you see it as a test to reward the vain and punish the kind, it's somewhat less funny. Especially as a test for a children's school.

    I guess you could be super rich and have your maid do the dirty work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    The weird thing is that it seems like walking past does NOT fail you. We don't know if there are any demerit points aside from instant fail.

    But saving him while remaining dirty is an instant fail with seemingly no merit for saving at all.

    When you see it as a test to reward the vain and punish the kind, it's somewhat less funny. Especially as a test for a children's school.

    I guess you could be super rich and have your maid do the dirty work.
    I wouldn't say that.

    There's ways to get him out of there without getting yourself dirty while he deliberately splashes around. For instance, Loid had an umbrella, that would have kept himself clean. They stood out more because Loid just went all in immediately.

    They may have marked down the people who callously walked past him. It just isn't important to the gags of this episode. They were weeding people out for the way they walked and behaved well before the true landmine tests came into play on the path to Hall 1.

    It's funny because it is so obvious and such an impossible test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    When you see it as a test to reward the vain and punish the kind, it's somewhat less funny. Especially as a test for a children's school.

    I guess you could be super rich and have your maid do the dirty work.
    It's obviously a school for the aristocracy, which emphasizes form over function. If you lose your form, it's meaningless to perform a function. A member of the elite must always look and behave like the elite. That sort of thing, I'd say. It's like the state of decadent nobility that has entirely abandoned the spirit of chivalry. Objectively speaking you might think it's a disservice to the kids, but if graduating from that school automatically helps them to be accepted into better universities and find better jobs, and generally speaking make better progress in life due to the prestige and connections, then it might not be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    but if graduating from that school automatically helps them to be accepted into better universities and find better jobs, and generally speaking make better progress in life due to the prestige and connections, then it might not be.
    That's like 90% of the reason elite schools exist. Sure you can learn a lot while there, but the real goal is the connections. This applies to all the countries I've lived in, which are fairly varied culturally, so I tend to think the pattern holds across the globe.
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    It did seem like Eden was still throwing out rather well-to-do people and even a few government employee families.

    If the Forgers do get in, and of course they must for the plot, it would be a very good event for them if this whole thing wasn't a sham, propelling them into considerably more elite society that a psychiatrist and his public servant 2nd wife would normally ever be entitled toward.

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    The changes of clothes felt like Bond just after a big action scene : perfect brushing and smoking... Except it's the 3 of them.
    007 to the cube :-)

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    Talking about changing clothes, I hope they keep up Twilight's face changing missions in the future. Face-changing was kind of his whole thing, but he he hasn't used it on his last "action" mission, nor the preview. And last episode, they tracked him back to his car and recognised him. It made for a great proposal scene, but I hope it doesn't set a trend of sloppy spy-work when it comes to actual missions.

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    Elegant, indeed. It reminds me of 'dandyism', a discipline so vague and undefined that the adherence to it is prime humor material. An impressive pivot to heartstring pulling when the question/subject about Anya's previous mother was brought up. Didn't feel out of place or ham fisted at all, which made it impactful.

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    In the pantheon of filler, this is royalty.

    Cute little adventure and some excellent animation. The agent hitting the mood lighting and fireworks button at the end was greatness.

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    I have to confess I didn't find this episode overly interesting. This is a comedy series, yes, but it still does have a solid story, more or less, and a relatively well built world. So, when the plot suddenly does something I find very hard to believe, like renting a whole castle/amusement park for an extremely flimsy reason and then collecting all the nearby agents there (an astronomical risk of exposing multiple spies), I just can't get into it. This would have worked better for me personally if it was scaled down a lot. Maybe only get a couple of extra agents involved, and no huge castles. It would have still been embarrassing for Twilight, confusing for the extra agents, but Anya, being a little kid, would still have been perfectly happy.

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    What was so stupid.

    In a good, but once-off way. I can't see the organisation entertaining this again.

    Yor being drunk will mean she remembers nothing from this.

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    So this was filler? That explains some things.

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    I almost feel like this should've been the finale.

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    The episode feels strongly like the series was still trying to figure out what tone it really intended to be.

    Yor getting increasingly wasted is also surprising. She must have gotten super relaxed to allow herself to let her guard down that severely.

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    Episode 6



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    Maybe Twilight is actually quite a bad judge of other people's character. It might not have mattered during his career as a spy if his work was mainly such that it didn't require any long term contact with his targets or other relevant people. As long as he'd have known what people desire or fear, superficially, he could have dealt with them as long as he needed to, which wasn't long at all. However, if he had been tasked with a real infiltration mission, he might have been in serious trouble. This is essentially such a mission, and to make matters worse, it's mostly about someone else's performance, not his own. It's obvious he never before needed to rely on someone else to get the main objectives done. Both of these flaws were actually demonstrated right at the beginning of the story where Loid chose the orphan kid so casually and offhandedly. He made the kind of split second judgement that normally served the brief contacts he had during missions, and then believed it was up to him (alone) to see the rest of the mission to the end. Realistically, the chosen kid should have been selected through careful filtering over a lengthy period of time.

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    Maybe so, but she's already become close friends with Becky Blackwell, giving Loid access that can help him acquire intel on arms manufacturers (and therefore early warning on any build up to a war), and even if Damian hates Anya at the moment, she also has his full attention. Much better than being dismissed or ignored.

    Anya getting her first bolt was guaranteed the moment the topic came up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Maybe Twilight is actually quite a bad judge of other people's character. It might not have mattered during his career as a spy if his work was mainly such that it didn't require any long term contact with his targets or other relevant people. As long as he'd have known what people desire or fear, superficially, he could have dealt with them as long as he needed to, which wasn't long at all. However, if he had been tasked with a real infiltration mission, he might have been in serious trouble.
    His introduction literally showed him in a relationship on the verge of marriage as part of his deep cover.

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    Anya getting her first bolt was guaranteed the moment the topic came up.
    Her getting 7 is pretty much guaranteed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    His introduction literally showed him in a relationship on the verge of marriage as part of his deep cover.
    My brain has forgotten such a detail because it's totally inconsistent with what we are seeing.

    Or is it? If you consider how many marriages end in a divorce and how many people manage to marry a pathological narcissist only to wake up to the horrible reality even years later, I wouldn't actually say it proves much if anything. If he can judge the other person's desires and fears at least superficially, he can potentially take it to the marriage stage easily enough. If would actually be the family life after that, which would show his true weaknesses, like we are witnessing now.

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    Isn't Anya a four year old pretending to be a six year old to be eligible to enroll? There are no four year olds capable of spycraft, and Twilight picked her from a shady orphanage to make it harder to trace her lineage and make it easier to fake a family with her (her age may have been obscured even then). His misreads of Yor and Anya are compounded by the sheer odds of them being what they are. All kids are weird, awkward, and uncontrollable. Lloyd has never had to take on the role of a precocious child, so predicting their behavior should be near impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Lloyd has never had to take on the role of a precocious child, so predicting their behavior should be near impossible.
    He didn't even try to. He went to the shadiest orphanage in the town and picked the first kid that seemed a bit more stable than the rest. Then that kid is put against the children of the best families in the country, in a school that regards behavior and bearing as more important than intelligence. With exaggeration, she's like a stray dog taken to a famous dog show. Like I said, I believe this is because Loid has so far been solving his missions mainly by relying on himself for the important parts. Now he obviously thought that as long as he coaches any kid (with a rudimentary level of intelligence), it's a mission accomplished. But then again, isn't he 20-something? No matter how kickass a spy he is, he was still too young to really understand the demands of this particular mission.

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