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    Which are still more believable with her superhuman abilities, versus kicking aside a car without anchoring herself anywhere. If she had anchored herself on a wall and then kicked the car aside, I'd be totally okay with it.

    I know she does crazy things like destroying trees with things she throws, but those weren't really plot related and seemed like exaggerations for comedic effect. This scene effectively allowed her to stop the escaping baddie.
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    I agree with Shinta here.

    It's not necessarly about being realistic, it's about how absurd you wanna be.
    The way it was done right now was absurd already and in-theme with what we've seen of her, her swiping the car away with her kick would be bonkers-deluxe to the point where you think she could easily level a house if she wanted to.

    It's just about how crazy you want to get and where and when you use that crazyness.
    It doesn't matter that a villain gets smashed by her and bounces his head on 5 walls like a gummyball, a knockout punch or kick would have the same effect.
    Stopping a car with her bare hands like a sumo-ringer for example, compared to making someone crash a car with a good kick that was already on the verge of losing control of his vehicle due to a sudden turn is still absolutely insane, but less so... and it has a different effect on the story/situation.

    The way it was done here could've been "waved off" as him losing control of the car by himself.
    Her kicking it into a wall or something would be weird if there are bystanders watching it, considering she wants to remain "undercover".

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    You'd like some kind of proportionnal coherence in her abilities I guess.
    Devil's advocate here, I'd need to rewatch the scene, but coud it be said that she did not move the 1000 Kg car but rather surprise/stun the driver into steering the car ?

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    I'm okay if that were the case, but Ryll did say in the source she just kicked the car aside, and that proves her superhuman abilities.
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    (To add more fuel to the fire) The shot proceeding her kick, it looked like Kieth was handling the wheel as if to swerve out of her way. If he did,the vehicle was already turning before the kick added X lateral momentum to it.

    Granted you would have to buy into him swerving, which he might not due to his 'burn it all down' character and situation, but he may have done so out of reflex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Jumps 10m or more to grip roof structures, jumps from road bridges. She's what a human sized grasshoper would be with cheetah speeds and swallow manoeuvrability.
    And ant strength!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I'm okay if that were the case, but Ryll did say in the source she just kicked the car aside, and that proves her superhuman abilities.
    For better or worse, it's pretty unambiguous.
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    The series is a comedy-adventure first and foremost. I wouldn't take this as serious as Black Lagoon, which itself has cartoony physics because it is playing after being a John Woo film. SPY x FAMILY is very much in line with Jump's usual fare of super-acrobatics treated as if they're normal.

    We don't see Twilight sinking in an ice bath after a fight like this is Atomic Blonde.

    It's probably most in line with something like of Gunsmith Cats, which in case anyone hasn't seen it or read it, includes scenes of throwing a child through a car to avoid hitting them, grenades that somehow don't kill, and a character deliberately catching bullets in the forehead because he wears a steel-backed bandana. Realistic? No. Entertaining? Yes.

    Spy x Family is described as a "cheerful spy action series." It shares a lot of tonal similarities with the Black Cat manga. People die very conclusively in this series when it serves the plot. Yor kills people with extreme efficiency much the same ways the Chronos members did.

    Yor is absurdly strong, and it is generally played for comedy. The whole series is intentionally such.

    I'm not really sure what else people are expecting. Did people want Keith to escape so that Sylvia can shoot him in the face?
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    I expected that if Yor had to kick the car, that she braced herself on a pillar or a wall to do it. Just seems less absurd than what we got. For me, it's not an issue about her power but her weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    For me, it's not an issue about her power but her weight.
    Shonen: "The weight of a car can't compare to the weight of her feelings!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post

    I'm not really sure what else people are expecting. Did people want Keith to escape so that Sylvia can shoot him in the face?
    Well, I expected what we got to see in the show.
    Not what is shown in the manga which in my opinion is the inferior version.

    To me, the one from the show is more "in-universe" than the one in the manga because even if Yor is insanely strong, they are still undercover and no one is supposed to know she is insanely strong.

    My suspension of disbelief isn't overburdended when I can say "Okay, the driver already turned the car away from her and the car was just short of losing control and Yor just knocked it out of control".
    Bystanders could've seen this and say that the woman was careless, jumped on the street, the car tried to dodge and lost control.

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    She should have sidestepped the car, kicked the driver in the head through the window, knocking him out and causing him to crash.

    *nods sagely*

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    Half-filler, half side chapter. Still good.

    I like that Yor's mean sempai got a chance to be redeemed as a super tsun. The 'cooking nuclear waste' joke is wearing thin, but the setup (Yor fearing losing her family) and side jokes like Yuri's self destructive love of it (and Tsun's surprising knowledge of regional seasoning) still made this feel more special than it was.

    Lloyd also got to be tender this episode with scruffy who, predictably, got shot down as romance just isn't in the cards for his character design (I hope I'm proved wrong later). Drinks with buddies and feel good/better all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Lloyd also got to be tender this episode with scruffy who, predictably, got shot down as romance just isn't in the cards for his character design (I hope I'm proved wrong later). Drinks with buddies and feel good/better all around.
    The telling line is that Franky threatens to sell out Twilight to the Secret Police. A good reminder in case anyone forgot, that Franky is an informant. He doesn't work for WISE (and Westalis). He's a Ostanian native.

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    You could tell from a mile away that Yor was secretly having cooking classes.

    What caught me by surprise was that her foreseen crying was a happy cry. That was good.

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    Eps 17

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    I'm not sure what the best gag is this episode:
    - Every other teacher is always absent or ill when the children are in a different class, so we always see Henry Henderson filling in.
    - The off-key recorder version of the main theme when Anya is messing up her own internal operations.
    - Anya narration of her own imagination and all the characters within it.
    - Becky Blackwell getting the hots for Loid.
    - Sylvia getting worthless updates from Twilight.
    - Confirmation that Yor really did make her brother invulnerable.

    Also, not quite a gag, but Damian having a really shitty family life, yet slowly building up to a crush on Anya, and having legitimately the best bros in his two lackeys being quite heartwarming.

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    It really shows how much the filler in this show undermines it. When you see how careful they are about their spycraft, and then the fillers are all "We had our entire spy network act out spy games in an amusement park!"

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    The castle chapter is canon, it's just so early the author didn't know exactly which tone to land the setting on.

    The anime made it worse though, true. The good news is that unless the anime injects original content, it that level of tonal disconnect doesn't happen again, and at the pace they're going they shouldn't need to. Dumb shit will still happen because it is a comedy (like Franky's date), but never at that scale.

    The short filler chapters are for fun, like the Anya school chapters.

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    Episode 18

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    Bond showing Anya dinner.. loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Bond showing Anya dinner.. loved it.
    And her immediately refocusing on that dinner.

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    Eps 19

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    Not really a fan of the first 2/3rds. It's a Youthful Slice of Life episode where the best part is how disgusted Anya is with the entire sappy farewell, and then the only person still nice to him when he returns in utter shame.

    I don't remember if the 2nd part was anime original or not, but a nice bit of character development and letting the animators show off.

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