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    A lot of people agree consecutively when we praise something clearly praiseworthy. Mfauli is the typical detractor to this, but he is but one person.

    Criticisms, however, usually get a lot more opposition because users here have extremely varying preferences and standards, and people generally react more when their tastes are attacked, versus other people liking something they dislike.
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    I'm a detractor because I don't agree with praising your "objectively praisworthy" anime? wat


    Episode 2:

    HIS SHADOW CAN BE SEEN IN EVERY SINGLE SCENE HE IS IN

    My god, I kept thinking about dropping this anime for that alone. It's such a stupid thing and it becomes more stupid with how inconsequentially it is applied. Also, a missing shadow would be noticed by people IMMEDIATELY. Why make this a thing? Just so can have some short-lived moment later in the story where someone notices the lacking shadow and some shallow drama comes from it? ugh.

    Also not a fan of the all-powerful hero. Can create anything and at the strongest level of magic, too. It's the quint-generic isekai trash.

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    You being a detractor is objective fact, proven by years of posts in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    You being a detractor is objective fact, proven by years of posts in this forum.

    I'm now a criminal because I have a different opinion? Ok.

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    Since when are detractors criminals..?
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    Episode 3


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    Farma actually displayed a good amount of patience for waiting as long as he did before intervening. I guess it's not so easy to step forward in front of an absolute ruler to present something contradictory, in room full of lackeys always ready to tell the ruler whatever they imagine is the popular thing to tell the ruler. At least Farma's case was easier since he could at least promise life, instead of death.

    Now that Shinta mentioned the plot device with the magic eye, it really was annoying to watch. Dude just kept listing all lung diseases randomly, until he hit a match. At least his photographic memory with chemical compounds is more impressive. Especially keeping in mind that they are 3D structures in reality, even if you usually see them drawn on paper as 2D things.

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    Was the best episode so far.

    What disappointed me is that Farma wouldn't tell the father that he actually died in another world and woke up as Farma. I know most isekai do this, but the father here seemed like a level-headed, reasonable, good-natured guy, so it felt kinda bad when Farma still pretended to be his son during the speech at the end. It's not like he chose to take over the real Farma's bdoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    What disappointed me is that Farma wouldn't tell the father that he actually died in another world and woke up as Farma. I know most isekai do this, but the father here seemed like a level-headed, reasonable, good-natured guy, so it felt kinda bad when Farma still pretended to be his son during the speech at the end. It's not like he chose to take over the real Farma's bdoy.
    No, it's absolutely the best thing not to tell. Telling the old man that would be the same as telling him that his only son is dead and a total stranger is controlling the son's body. It would be horrifying, no matter how level-headed someone is. Only an emotionless, loveless, and utterly uncaring person wouldn't mind. Like one of those typical isekai villain nobles, who only cares about his own ambitions and treats everyone like tools and trash, including their own children. Such a monster would actually be glad if their average son was replaced by a genius since it would raise the family's prestige and thus their own status.

    What positive could come out of telling? It's not like the Japanese professor would ever be coming back. He's stuck in Farma's body for good, so it's now his only body. He has to live with it. The only price he has to pay by not telling is that his real soul (and Japanese name) won't be acknowledged, but that's a pretty insignificant price to pay compared to being able to live in a decent family, with the best imaginable resources available in that world to do what he loves to do: develop medicine and help sick people. Plus he now even again has a little sister; losing the sister was what drove him into medicine in the first place. If he told, he might become a homeless fugitive if he wasn't executed immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    Agreed. The mechanics of the s kill, as we understand it, make a glorified medical guessing game unless there is some limitation to its use. It may as well save the steps of guessing until correct
    Shown in this episode to be exacly how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    No, it's absolutely the best thing not to tell. Telling the old man that would be the same as telling him that his only son is dead and a total stranger is controlling the son's body. It would be horrifying, no matter how level-headed someone is. Only an emotionless, loveless, and utterly uncaring person wouldn't mind. Like one of those typical isekai villain nobles, who only cares about his own ambitions and treats everyone like tools and trash, including their own children. Such a monster would actually be glad if their average son was replaced by a genius since it would raise the family's prestige and thus their own status.

    What positive could come out of telling? It's not like the Japanese professor would ever be coming back. He's stuck in Farma's body for good, so it's now his only body. He has to live with it. The only price he has to pay by not telling is that his real soul (and Japanese name) won't be acknowledged, but that's a pretty insignificant price to pay compared to being able to live in a decent family, with the best imaginable resources available in that world to do what he loves to do: develop medicine and help sick people. Plus he now even again has a little sister; losing the sister was what drove him into medicine in the first place. If he told, he might become a homeless fugitive if he wasn't executed immediately.
    I couldn't disagree more (m I detracting correctly, shinta?! :P).

    The father already noticed something is very different. And to pull your argument around: Only a loveless father wouldn't notice when his son suddenly is a completely different person. It'd be one thing if nobody was suspicious, but in this special case, it would have been the right thing to do. His real son is dead, that's fact. Or at least he's gone for now. While there is some risk to how it'd end, the positives far outweight those: being able to live with this family without guilt and working together. Neo-Farma could talk it all out with the father, even saying that maybe there's a way to restore the original son and that he'll help finding a way, if there is one.

    Right now, Neo-Farma is full on lying to the father, but feels as if he's being nice and all, when he's not. There's nothing nice about telling someone his dead son is actually still alive when he's not. You gotta rip the bandaid off.

    It's a done deal now, though, I doubt it'll come up again until maybe the end.

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    Farma has enough to worry about without his dad trying to kill him for possessing his son's corpse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    The father already noticed something is very different. And to pull your argument around: Only a loveless father wouldn't notice when his son suddenly is a completely different person.
    He did notice, but he also could accept Farma's explanation after the lightning strike and seeing the magic crest. It's a religious and superstitious society and culture. At the end of the day, the old man would obviously have nothing against Farma being divinely inspired to develop medicine by leaps and bounds, theirs being a medicine family, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    His real son is dead, that's fact. Or at least he's gone for now. While there is some risk to how it'd end, the positives far outweight those: being able to live with this family without guilt and working together. Neo-Farma could talk it all out with the father, even saying that maybe there's a way to restore the original son and that he'll help finding a way, if there is one.
    The family doesn't believe their son is dead. They can keep living happily. This very episode addressed the issue of how to approach patients, and Farma noticed that's where he's lacking. He can't do things considering only his own feelings, ambitions, or goals, the well-being of the patient is the most important thing, and that includes the psychological aspect. There's absolutely no morally right or wrong stance in this question, so the more important question would be what is best for the family. Hearing their son is dead and the should-be-corpse is controlled by some alien entity would hardly be the best thing for them.

    It's quite outlandish to think Farma could keep living there with the family if he revealed how things really are. He would have no bond to de Medici family anymore, in fact it should be too painful for them to keep seeing him. "Finding a way" could happen, but why go through all the pain when it doesn't, in the end, serve any purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Right now, Neo-Farma is full on lying to the father, but feels as if he's being nice and all, when he's not. There's nothing nice about telling someone his dead son is actually still alive when he's not. You gotta rip the bandaid off.
    No, he actually said he considers himself Bruno's son. There's a technical difference there, if you want to pay attention to it, which means he's not full on lying. It's not like the Japanese dude wanted to be reborn as Farma, so he gotta do nothing at all. Like every single human's, his first priority is to look after himself. It just so happens that by looking after himself, he has a chance to look after millions of people. If you really want to find someone to blame for the situation and accept responsibility, blame the deity Panaceia, or whatever it was.

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    The isekai part is way too unbelievable a truth and will only lessen his credibility to not only his father, but everyone else.

    If he just rides the wave that the guardian deity has blessed him, he gets to jump over all the trust hurdles since the society genuinely has magic and godly miracles. He even has GLOWING crests on his arms as proof.

    There is simply no benefit and too many risks involved with revealing his old life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    The isekai part is way too unbelievable a truth and will only lessen his credibility to not only his father, but everyone else.

    If he just rides the wave that the guardian deity has blessed him, he gets to jump over all the trust hurdles since the society genuinely has magic and godly miracles. He even has GLOWING crests on his arms as proof.

    There is simply no benefit and too many risks involved with revealing his old life.
    Agreed. The truth sounds too stupid. The lie is more palatable.

    If it even really IS a lie. He probably IS blessed by the healing god. As that's probably who brought him to this world in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    No, he actually said he considers himself Bruno's son. There's a technical difference there, if you want to pay attention to it, which means he's not full on lying.
    I can see that argument, although I'd need to hear the Japanese original line.

    Either way, I'm putting myself in Farma's shoes and I don't think I could live on knowing that my entire existence is a lie. Maybe if I was in a worse situation, but he's liked by everyone, he's powerful, and the father is intelligent and caring. And considering Neo-Farma WAS chosen by their deity or whatever, it's still in line with people's belief system.

    Worst case, father abandons him, callls him a monster and Farma leaves, living on his own now. No big deal for someone who can create anything. And didn't the synopsis say he builds his own shop anyway?

    But this is as far as this discussion goes, it's not that important, especially now that it's settled.I'd only bring it up again if the anime makes it a focus again, that'd be annoying.

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    His power is a little too strong. I know it's magic and it has been stated that his attributes are create and eliminate.
    But when you do simple maths when he uses eliminate on a volume of water that large... That's insane.

    Somehow I feel like creating an air buble the same size and with the right pressure would be easier. He could even make it smaller and not be seen doing it. But no heretic arc...

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    episode 6:

    "No shadow" stupidity aside, the way he just followed the girl without guards was dumb, too. But tbh, I completely disregarded this anime when it mentioned the "Nederlands" and stuff. When the author is so devoid of creativity that he cant even come up with random fantasy names, ugh.

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    Marseille too, subers didn't want to know that Fench city, probably because they prefer the PSG (football club, I mean true football... not MMA rugby )

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    This'll be hilarious. You somehow trap and corner an unknown threat that can erase material, something completely unknown in your world, and think it's a good idea. If this guy isn't such a pussy, he could just erase their bodies from existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    he could just erase their bodies from existence.
    That's a LOT of chemistry to visualize all at once.

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