Ore Dake Level Up na Ken / Solo Leveling

[Buffalobiian]

My gamer mind tells me that if you receive an item in early game, you should attempt to use it first because holding out for a Legendary Lvl1 Sword at endgame is meaningless.

But this guy's a noob so I can't say for sure that this was his throught process. I think he just wanted to do a dungeon because that's what he does to earn money. Given that other people tend to take his rewards since they beat more monsters, and the fact that he thought he could yeet the hell out if shit hits the fans, I can see why he went in.

[MFauli]

My gamer mind tells me that if you receive an item in early game, you should attempt to use it first because holding out for a Legendary Lvl1 Sword at endgame is meaningless.

But this guy's a noob so I can't say for sure that this was his throught process. I think he just wanted to do a dungeon because that's what he does to earn money. Given that other people tend to take his rewards since they beat more monsters, and the fact that he thought he could yeet the hell out if shit hits the fans, I can see why he went in.

Funny, my gamer mind said: You're a bloody beginner, here you got a dungeon-teleport, better wait until later, because it might be fully of high level monsters". RPGs often give you items with a level-requirement you cannot use until hours later.

I guess the key being non-descriptive is what makes the choice ambigious. Still, him being the weakest of the weak should have made him more wary.

[Kraco]

You might say that wariness was his first stance. He had just woken up from... death, in a hospital bed when he got the first task. It was a good amount of exercise, and he thought that since he's still a patient under medical supervision, he can't possibly start the One Punch Man workout. So, he ignored it. The next thing he knew he was fleeing from giant monsters. Since he doesn't exactly know what those obligatory tasks will be in the future, he should now be feeling like he can't ignore any chances the game system is offering him to get stronger. The private dungeon key might seem like voluntary, but for all he knows, ignoring it for the time being might make a near future compulsory task difficult to clear.

[DarthEnderX]

Started watching this. Soon as the video game UI popped up I mostly checked out.

game interfaces are super popular both in Japan and Korea, so what can you do?

Watch a better show?

I'm liking Delicious in Dungeon and Unwanted Undead Adventurer(which is REMARKABLY similar in concept to this: Guy finds secret area in low level dungeon where he gets murdered by a superboss, and unlocks the ability to level up in ways other adventurers can't) better than this.

He ignored the first task the system gave him, and as a consequence was running for hours for his very life. Don't say he should keep ignoring stuff again.

He also "confirmed" the quest after looking at it. It's not clear if he can simply choose to not accept the quest.

My gamer mind tells me that if you receive an item in early game, you should attempt to use it first because holding out for a Legendary Lvl1 Sword at endgame is meaningless.

A sword is a sword. It's not a key that sends you to a single-player death trap, and doesn't hide the fact that it sends you to a single-player death trap.

[Kraco]

A sword is a sword. It's not a key that sends you to a single-player death trap, and doesn't hide the fact that it sends you to a single-player death trap.

Why would it send him to a death trap? Seems pointless someone would create that system only to randomly throw the "player" into a death trap. Based on the obligatory daily physical training alone, the system is trying to make him stronger. Thus the private dungeon should also serve the same purpose, even if it had other, unknown purposes as well.

[DarthEnderX]

Why would it send him to a death trap?

I don't mean a literal death trap.

Death gauntlet I guess would be more accurate.


There are countless examples in video games of "You have unlocked this side area". And if you go to that side area when you unlock it, you will die.

And that's fine for video games, but if he just decided to "try out" the side area on a whim and then discovers it's too difficult, he's just dead.

[Kraco]

I don't mean a literal death trap.

Death gauntlet I guess would be more accurate.


There are countless examples in video games of "You have unlocked this side area". And if you go to that side area when you unlock it, you will die.

And that's fine for video games, but if he just decided to "try out" the side area on a whim and then discovers it's too difficult, he's just dead.

Indeed, if it all was just a game. My argument is that he was specifically selected and is now being trained. The game UI screens automatically mean there's something/someone out there messing with him specifically. It's not like nature would give birth to a game-like interface. So, yes, while he could, possibly, still easily die, I can't think there would be a literal death trap with an unavoidable death waiting for him. The someone who selected him would lose the "player" in that case. It should be a situation where, if he gives it his all and uses his brain, he should be able to overcome it. Like happens in 99% of games, though naturally games being only games, you can always keep starting anew from the beginning, at the very least, if there are no checkpoints or manual saves. That being said, Jinwoo did seemingly die already once, before he became a "player".

[MFauli]

Kraco, the only reason he survived the 4 hour punishment is because he's got ENORMOUS plot shield already. Not sure the system *wants* him to get stronger. If he can keep up, good, if not, also good.

[Kraco]

Kraco, the only reason he survived the 4 hour punishment is because he's got ENORMOUS plot shield already. Not sure the system *wants* him to get stronger. If he can keep up, good, if not, also good.

If he's the only one, like the series name suggests, then quite special attention is being paid to him. Naturally one would think that if he fails and dies, then another person would be selected. But it would still be quite pointless for the system to purposefully attract him to a death trap with no escape. The giant centipede world was clearly an exaggeration. Maybe it was meant to be humorous, as it was a punishment. Who knows.

[DarthEnderX]

Naturally one would think that if he fails and dies, then another person would be selected.

Why would you assume that? The portals have been around for years, and he's seemingly the first one to become a "Player". Why would they think another one would just get picked? It could be an event that takes years to happen. Or might never happen again.

No part of this system gives the impression that it's built with fair game design in mind. Just because it has the trappings of a video game, doesn't mean one should assume it's built like a video game. This could be designed by some malevolent extradimensional AI that's doing this for it's own amusement.

[Kraco]

Why would you assume that? The portals have been around for years, and he's seemingly the first one to become a "Player". Why would they think another one would just get picked? It could be an event that takes years to happen. Or might never happen again.

No part of this system gives the impression that it's built with fair game design in mind. Just because it has the trappings of a video game, doesn't mean one should assume it's built like a video game. This could be designed by some malevolent extradimensional AI that's doing this for it's own amusement.

Like you also said, it's designed. The dungeons themselves, plus giving a fixed amount of powers to a few, random humans is something far more natural. You could even say in a fantasy world it would be perfectly natural. However, the game UI is 100% artificially created. Perhaps Jinwoo is the first simply because it took this long to create the game-like system? However, with the system now created, in my eyes it makes sense that if Jinwoo fails, another human would be turned into a player, lest developing the system would be a waste. Normally I'd say there should be more players at the same time, but the series name is solo leveling, so that's it.

Although I know what you are saying and it's reasonable, but in this case I have to point out that an AI wouldn't be doing anything for its own amusement. Some alien creature could indeed be doing this for its own amusement. But AI doesn't possess emotions. In fact there's another manwha, where Earth is turned into a total disaster zone with most of humanity wiped out and the remaining ones fighting for their lives against imported monsters. It's done for some kind of galactic entertainment show, which picks planets with intelligent life and turns them into bloodbath reality TV shows for profit. Or something along those lines. It has been a long while since I read it.

[DarthEnderX]

Like you also said, it's designed.

But you're assuming it's designed like a game, which is meant to be beaten.

But that's a weird life-or-death assumption to make when you know nothing about who or what the designer is or what it's trying to accomplish.

The dungeons could be made by a Cthulhu to facilitate sacrifices and the leveling could be a way to enhance your flavor.

but in this case I have to point out that an AI wouldn't be doing anything for its own amusement. Some alien creature could indeed be doing this for its own amusement. But AI doesn't possess emotions.

Somebody isn't familiar with I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream.

Or any other sci-fi about AI for that matter.

[shinta|hikari]

Do we have a thread for Delicious in Dungeon (dumbest localized title ever - should be Dungeon Meals) already?

[DarthEnderX]

04

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Zero to OP in one episode. Any sense of progression, instantly killed.

Do we have a thread for Delicious in Dungeon (dumbest localized title ever - should be Dungeon Meals) already?

Didn't see one. Netflix shows get overlooked here sometimes. Maybe because they aren't on SubsPlease.

[Ryllharu]

Do we have a thread for Delicious in Dungeon (dumbest localized title ever - should be Dungeon Meals) already?

We still don't have one for Maomao either.

Dungeon Meshi is tough for me to talk about because I recently reread the whole finished manga and I'd probably spoil something on accident.

[MFauli]

04

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Zero to OP in one episode. Any sense of progression, instantly killed.

Unfortunately, have to agree.

WTF were they thinking?! He kills a couple wolves, rises 15 levels from that alone, and then kills a boss by simply hugging it too hard. LOL. And before that he kept saying how strong and fast the boss is and that its scales are impenetranable - didn't keep Jinwoo from outrunning, dodging and surviving EVERY attack. I laughed out loud when the snake pressed him against a wall and instead of crushing him, the wall broke and he was sent flying further backwards. LOL. I can already hear someone defend this with "well, he focused strength points, so ...". Yeah, no.

And the whole time, especially at the end, though, he had this really nasty smug attitude. Like, he's totally someone who goes from victim to bully the instant the opportunity arises. Not a hero I can like.

And why was that tank at the end so shocked? Yeah, it was a "high rank" helping you, so what of it? Why the shock?

This is still a somewhat entertaining anime, but this episode pulled it down to the level of something like Tate no Yuusha. sigh

[DarthEnderX]

And before that he kept saying how strong and fast the boss is and that its scales are impenetranable - didn't keep Jinwoo from outrunning, dodging and surviving EVERY attack.

Remember when he was doing all those cartwheels and backflips on that first wolf, even though he hadn't put a single point into agility yet?

And why was that tank at the end so shocked? Yeah, it was a "high rank" helping you, so what of it? Why the shock?

Maybe just cause it's weird a passing high rank would intervene from the sidelines, instead of actually being in the battle.

I assume Jinwoo is trying to hide his power for the time being, but to that guy, there's no logical reason anyone would do that.

[David75]

I fully agree, from zero to hero a bit too fast. I guess the OPM training still works in anime...
So his level is already at least a C with a B or A stength? That was fast.
I also had a problem with the guy being a natural olympic level gymnast, stronger than a concrete beam, able to hug that snake to death and ripping it barehanded when a sword could not pierce it.
Like last episode, any kind of rule or coherence has to be forgotten.
Makes any kind of tension useless

[shinta|hikari]

We still don't have one for Maomao either.

Dungeon Meshi is tough for me to talk about because I recently reread the whole finished manga and I'd probably spoil something on accident.

Shame cause they are the heavy hitters last and this season.

Having said that, I am now off to not create threads for them but instead watch Reacher S2 for some dumbass violence.

[Kraco]

Why are you dudes talking about the lack of threads for other series here? If that's your way of looking down on this series, by talking about irrelevant things, stop it.

In any case, it seems like the hype got to you. This isn't some deep story of exquisite storytelling. While it is a from zero to hero story, yes, I judged the larger theme is to build scenes of badassness, quite often by relying on the visuals. Since Jinwoo is only now climbing out of wretchedness, it's not that obvious yet. If you try to study the plot too much, and all that, you will just be disappointed. The only way to try to enjoy this properly is to treat it like some 80's action movie.