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    I haven't seen the latest episode, but I'm liking this series so far. Dungeon Meshi was mentioned, so I just kinda chimed in, and then Maomao got brought up, and I cannot not say anything about Maomao. Sorry for the off topic posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Why are you dudes talking about the lack of threads for other series here? If that's your way of looking down on this series, by talking about irrelevant things, stop it.
    Okay. I'll go back to looking down on it directly.

    This is pretty dumb so far. And not in a cool way. In a lame Sword Art way.

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    I just finished watching the wolf episode. I'm looking forward to him fucking shit up while being confused as to how. Always a nice trope.
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    I'm okay with him ripping the snake apart with his hands, because it kind of actually plays with the strength thing. The snake also has scales and his sword is supposed to be damaged, so it being useless compared to fists makes videogame sense to me

    But then it's tough to say that throwing the broken sword was good enough to shatter some defense. So no, it doesn't make THAT much sense at all.

    Anyway, looks like they're done with giving us a reason to feel sorry for MC now and it's about everyone gizzing about how powerful this guy has become.

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    Ep4 was great imho.
    Although the "everything just goes my way"-storytelling is visibly starting now. I'm just not much of a fan of that in these kind of stories.

    And I'm saying that, fully realising that the dungeon/"game" itself is designed that way.
    (Just like how in games you get enemies/quests matching your level and such)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Although the "everything just goes my way"-storytelling is visibly starting now. I'm just not much of a fan of that in these kind of stories.
    I have polluted my brain with so many isekai series that my tolerance has gone remarkably up, even though I'm always massively positively surprised when a series offers struggle for the MC. The writing in this series isn't really good enough to make the MC struggle too long, while still trying to make him look badass.

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    Episode 5


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    Yeah, we definitely entered the phase where the world is supposed to see the MC as a badass. The ep even started with salivating nurses. It's also quite traditional storytelling that he bumped into corrupt hunters so soon. There's naturally a difference between beating nameless monsters and beating evil humans, after all. For what it's worth, I deem the balance in his mental change quite reasonable. He wasn't aware of looking suddenly so attractive in women's eyes, that's quite removed from beating monsters in dungeons, after all, but he was pretty relaxed walking into this dungeon, as he already conquered one dungeon all alone. Furthermore, it's a normal dungeon, so he can simply flee any time he wants.

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    I don't know if rich boy survives this. But being well versed in laws might be a help? First he can probably keep a secret, second our MC doesn't put much points in INT so he needs someone reliable. Someone to manage the real world too, and giving him pointers as to how to officially enter higher ranked dungeons

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    This is dumb. MC didn't just get stronger - he's an entirely different person! His personality, even his voice is different. This goes beyond "boring", it's super-boring just switching out the hero like that.

    I wonder if there's at least some negative twist later on, because it cannot be good to have your personality be changed by some outsides source like that. My hope would be that at some point he has a moment of realization and says "wait, that's not me anymore!". Although even if that happened, it'd probably lead to some shitty "when in danger, I switch to my badass persona, irl I keep my original one" situation :/

    Oh, and PLS, not another gay hero. He should have banged the nurse, and there was a hint of his sister admiring his new body, too, might have a chance at some quality Duo Leveling ;>

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    They've established that raising his "game" stats also changes him in the real world. So logically, that would apply to ALL of his stats.

    He already has a 27 Int, when he started at a 10. So he's almost three times as intelligent as he used to be. Same with his Perception. That would alter your entire outlook on the world, which could cause your personality to change.


    I DID laugh though when he was like "Int? That's probably for magic. I don't need that." I'm like, "Those are your real stats dude! More Int makes you smarter!" He's lucky that leveling automatically puts a point in each stat, which is keeping him from being a completely min-maxed meathead.


    I do like that he's being cautious with his status as a leveler and keeping it secret till he can learn more about his situation. You don't want to end up exploited, or as a lab rat being studied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    They've established that raising his "game" stats also changes him in the real world. So logically, that would apply to ALL of his stats.

    He already has a 27 Int, when he started at a 10. So he's almost three times as intelligent as he used to be. Same with his Perception. That would alter your entire outlook on the world, which could cause your personality to change.
    I doubt Int would work like that under any circumstances. Certainly I hope it would make him a bit smarter, perhaps quicker in understanding things, but if he was actually three times more intelligent than he was, he would be beyond Einstein already. In such absolute numbers, I doubt he's even 27% more intelligent than he was originally. So, its major effect might truly be mana alone.

    At the end of the day, there might not be any authors around who could write a supernaturally intelligent characters. Great many have tried, but they are miserable attempts, pretty much without exemptions. Usually the author's skills stop at making the so called genius character just conveniently sort out all problems, like solve crimes without even needing to study the evidence or anything, naturally without the author making it too detailed. It's understandable as it's easy to imagine how an overly strong character (Hulk) might interact with the environment, but you'd actually need to be a genius yourself to imagine how a genius would view the world and act on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    but if he was actually three times more intelligent than he was, he would be beyond Einstein already.
    I dunno. He was kind of a dipshit. He'd rather work a job of constantly almost dying to barely scape together a living than just get a normal job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I dunno. He was kind of a dipshit. He'd rather work a job of constantly almost dying to barely scape together a living than just get a normal job.
    Wasn't he making pretty decent money, despite how gruesome his performance used to look like? The apartment looks good, the sister keeps living comfortably, with plans to send her to a good university, and the mother is in a coma but taken care of in a hospital. He could also afford to recuperate between the missions. What would be the normal job, anyway? I don't think he had the time to get a good education before he needed to become the family's moneymaker. He's not likely that much older than the high school student sister.

    Anyway, this is just the beginning for him, so imagine how high those numbers will be after a while. If there was a mistake, maybe it was the author naming that attribute Int.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Wasn't he making pretty decent money, despite how gruesome his performance used to look like? The apartment looks good, the sister keeps living comfortably, with plans to send her to a good university, and the mother is in a coma but taken care of in a hospital.
    Oh right. He's paying expensive hospital bills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If there was a mistake, maybe it was the author naming that attribute Int.
    Not really his fault that that's the naming convention of RPGs. 'Int = magic'.

    JRPGs just don't normally have conversation trees that are effected by stats, so there's no representation for 'Int = your character is smarter'.

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    Yeah, intelligence in jrpgs means magic.

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    Episode 6


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    Dynamic quest creation system. It was pretty nice for him that it did turn into a quest because that's why he got the rewards. That being said, he isn't a psycho, so the author had to put some hesitation in it for him before he starts killing humans. I suppose that's because he wasn't bullied all his career but many people actually showed him sympathy, knowing how difficult being a hunter must be for the weakest hunter in the world. That being said, his death in the stone god's room wasn't especially pretty and did involve some people saving themselves, the rest be damned, so it's not like he would be utterly devoid of regret and vengeance.

    As expected, that murder-robber group wasn't so powerful. Otherwise, they wouldn't have been running such a business where they picked even weaker people to kill and rob. Since even Jinwoo could make enough money to support himself, the sister, and the mother in the hospital, despite being the weakest hunter, there's no way that C rank dude plus D rank goons couldn't have made plenty of money honestly. They just didn't have what it takes mentally, instead going for the bandit route.

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    I really hate how ENTIRELY unwarranted Jinwoo's "cool shtick" is. He got lucky to get this special ability of leveling up, show some humility.

    What I loved about this episode, though: No chickening out of fighting those assholes! God, I was so waiting for any hint of "no, I cannot kill humans!" and then either he doesn't do it (i expected the spider boss to have some surprise life left in it and suddenly kill them from behind) or he was relieved of the moral choice. Well, the program telling him "if you dont, you die" was a bit like that, but still. This is what I always talk about when I speak of CONSEQUENCES. If only it were a more frequently occurring thing.

    The people in this world are shit, though. The girl at the end, wtf. "Oh, it must have been you who beat the dungeon, not that shitty guy WHO STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO US." If I were Jinwoo I'd hurry the fuck to make enough money for life and then settle on some far away island with my hot sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    What I loved about this episode, though: No chickening out of fighting those assholes! God, I was so waiting for any hint of "no, I cannot kill humans!" and then either he doesn't do it (i expected the spider boss to have some surprise life left in it and suddenly kill them from behind) or he was relieved of the moral choice.
    I was worried about that at first too, but then I remembered this series has a reputation for being edgelordy.


    And, in a way, he kinda WAS relieved of the moral choice by the quest. The quest said if he didn't defeat them, his heart would stop. And it didn't make it clear whether that's because they would kill him if he didn't, or if the system would kill him as a penalty. Which turns it into a question of survival instead of morality.

    Although, the quest did say "defeat" not "kill". So I'm curious if he could have just knocked them out and still completed the quest.

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    I would have liked it much more if he chose to kill them, rather than have this turn into a survival quest.

    I'm not sure if this episode implies it, but MC went for the face palm (blunt trauma) vs the last foe who reinforced himself - so fucking shit up with his fists is actually stronger for him if he can't cut with his equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I was worried about that at first too, but then I remembered this series has a reputation for being edgelordy.


    And, in a way, he kinda WAS relieved of the moral choice by the quest. The quest said if he didn't defeat them, his heart would stop. And it didn't make it clear whether that's because they would kill him if he didn't, or if the system would kill him as a penalty. Which turns it into a question of survival instead of morality.

    Although, the quest did say "defeat" not "kill". So I'm curious if he could have just knocked them out and still completed the quest.
    As I said, yeah, but let's be fair: If this was SAO or some shit, the hero would have refused to kill them and then by some magical occurrence, he wouldn't be punished by death. So in that regard, it was a positive surprise here.

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